Talk:Project X (2012 film)

Critical reception

Just came here quick to point something out. Here's a quote from the current article under the "Critical reception" section:

"The film's critical reception has been different between ages. Teenagers and young adult's seemed to love the film while older viewers expressed negative reception."

There is no source for this, and I haven't read anything like this online. I think this is BS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.247.197.173 (talk) 05:47, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

It's been removed. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 13:06, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

"Chris Hewitt of Empire gave the film 1 star out of 4" This should be "1 star out of 5" not 4. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teachbirds2fly (talk • contribs) 23:53, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Done Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:59, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Project M

Should something be said about project m in michigan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.132.228 (talk) 13:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

You have to say what Project M is first. Google doesn't give me anything useful. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 14:13, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Charges Against Thomas

Thomas was had six charges against him, but he was only convicted on three acounts: inciting a riot, disturbing the peace, and contributing to the delinquency of minors.

St Pattys Day In London

On March 17th, 2012 in London, Ontario, Canada, a street located close to a college ended up host to a riot. Over 1000 individuals were in the street tearing down fences, harassing police officers, and fueling a fire with bottles of alcohol, pieces of fences, and a news van. 17 police cars were damaged, and over 100 officers had to retreat from the scene to let it "die out". The officers estimate over $100,000 worth of damage to the City of London. When interviewing individuals, many of them referred to the riot as "Project X 2.0" . Perhaps this can be included under the "Impact" section? Heres a link to one of the news articles. http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120318/120318_London_Riot/20120318/?hub=CP24Home — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.100.158.213 (talk) 19:45, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I think this one seems to be more just blaming the film than based on it but I will see if there is a way to add it. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Reading it, that news story doesn't mention Project X. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:34, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

This has been happening on that street in London for about 10 years, though not on the scale of this year. Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:25, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

The "Real" Project X

Prior to the development of this movie, between January 13th and 15th of 2008, then 16 year old Corey Delaney threw a party in Australia with events VERY similar to the ones in the movie, after advertising the party on myspace (this was 2008, after all, heh).

http://gawker.com/345393/some-hipster-in-australia-threw-a-party-heres-why-its-world-news and,

http://www.nextmovie.com/blog/was-project-x-inspired-by-a-true-story/

News reports indicate that "500 strangers/people showed up", resulting in at least 20,000 dollars worth of damages and/or fines.(this purported footage makes it seem like it was much more than "500", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE5HSTrnQfw )

A link to verified footage would be nice, but not necessary for the article. Though, this link to a news interview with Corey Delaney might be relevant as it mirrors final scene of the movie, while predating it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvf_VW7jF4Y .

One would like to write that these events "inspired" the film, but screenwriter Michael Bacall and producer Todd Phillips refuse to say anything, either way, about the relationship between the Australian party event, and the movie. Thus, we cannot call this the event that "inspired" the movie. Yet the last scene of the movie features an interview, which looks like a fictional depiction of the actual interview video (linked above) that is reported to have gone viral.

Currently the "Impact" section lists other parties that were inspired by the movie, and a quick paragraph or two on this event would seem to fit with those. However, this event was not inspired by the movie, and so the title "impact" seems inappropriate. Does anyone have any suggestions for a new section name, or an alternate section name? If no suggestions or objections are made in a reasonable amount of time, then I will just go ahead and post some changes myself. If requested, I can place the changes in a draft before publishing them. It should be noted that there is a minor wikipedia community controversy surrounding the creation and deletion of a page for "Corey Delaney". Thus, I am being a little extra cautious about adding this information. Finally, the two news articles, and perhaps the youtube link of the interview can be used for sources for the information mentioned above. Mystyc1 (talk) 00:53, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

I see that there was a revision on 16:17, May 31, 2012 by user Darkwarriorblake, where a section mentioning the above was deleted. I am not advocating for that section or not, just about adding some of the information as described above. Darkwarriorblake, do you have any requests or suggestions for restrictions on adding the above information? Mystyc1 (talk) 21:57, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

The director has said that the party isn't based off that particular one, I don't think it needs a section dedicated to it. If there is an article on Wikipedia about it already, it might be worth adding it to the bottom of the article in a See Also section. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

List of parties inspired by Project X‎

A brand new editor seems to want to break off the "Legacy" section into its own article. I'd say this is unnecessary, and it's hardly a phenomenon that teenagers have parties. They also seem to want to create a page called ProjectOBX which gets no relevant google hits. Interestingly this is also the editor's user name. Any thoughts? --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:33, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Just revert, I think the section si important in the same way murders inspired by horror films are, but rather that its original intent it's being ironically used to try and get hits for parties instead and if it carries on its easier to just reduce the section down to "it inspired a few parties such as this that and the other with only details if something significant happened. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 14:47, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I've reverted again, but the editor in question wants to continue to work on List of parties inspired by Project X‎, which, if you look at the content, seems to be questionable. I may be in danger of WP:3RR if I continue reverting, but user does not wish to discuss here... --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:55, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Such a thing wouldn't pass an independent notability test anyway so the article would be deleted. Their only relevance is in the context of the film article. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 16:14, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, they're still at it, without wishing to discuss here. --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:48, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Birthday Rapper

I'm quite positive that the Birthday Rapper is Simon Rex can anybody verify this? DanielDPeterson + talk 11:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Project X party

I started Project X party no knowing. Should it get speedied or should the legacy section move there? It's taken on a life of its own, but could still fit within this article. You decide. I'm fine either way. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:54, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I see the section "List of parties inspired by Project X‎" above. Sorry all. I stubbed the thing seconds before i had to leave for the day. It seems this has been sorted. I will self speedy the stub, and that will be the end of it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:02, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Project X (2012 film)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Adabow (talk · contribs) 02:37, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

• In the first dollar amount, state that this is in US$ (WP:CURRENCY)
• I think one-sentence mention of the sequel is appropriate to be included in the lead.
• "The cast is rounded out by..." - what does this mean? Is this just another way of saying "other actors are..."? If so, why is it broken into this statement as well as "Additional cast includes..."
• In terms of casting, is it known which actors have previous acting experience?
• "before choosing the digital-HD Sony F23 video camera, basing their decision on its camera's ability" - what do you mean by "its camera"? Perhaps remove "camera's".
• "The film grossed $54,731,865 in the United States and Canada and $46,200,000 from markets elsewhere – a worldwide total of $100,931,865." - I know it's under the box office heading, but specify that these sums are box office figures (not including home video)
• "Young male audiences, which had decreased throughout 2011 from the previous year saw an increase for the opening weekend, with 58% of the audience skewing male and 67% of those being under the age of 25." - I can work out what this sentence means, but please rewrite for better clarity
• "The film garnered 28% approval from 127 critics on Rotten Tomatoes – an average score of 4.2 out of 10 – whose consensus reads: "Unoriginal, unfunny, and all-around unattractive, Project X mines the depths of the teen movie and found-footage genres for 87 minutes of predictably mean-spirited debauchery."[33] and earned a score of 48 out of 100 from 25 critics on review aggregate website Metacritic,[34] indicating "mixed or average."" - either split this into two sentences (RT and MC) or rewrite. There shouldn't be a full stop at the end of the "mean-spirited debauchery" quote, as the quote is in the middle of a sentence.
• "Chris Hewitt of Empire gave the film one star out of five, and referred to the central characters portrayed by Mann, Cooper, and Brown, as "spectacularly unlikeable", labeling them as "unrepentant, nihilistic, vile, venal, animalistic, avaricious, charmless, entitled, sub-Kardashian, stunningly irresponsible brats"." - iffy prose; please rework
• "Robbie Collin of The Telegraph called the film "flamboyantly loathsome on every imaginable level" and compared the leads to Superbad, saying "unlike Superbad's leads, these three are poisonously unpleasant, and the supposedly comedic banter between them comes off as bullying."" - how is this a comparison?
• Is there a reason for the third paragraph of 'Critical reception' being two sentences long, and not part of the previous paragraph?
• "Not all reviews were negative however." - rewrite, or delete and introduce positive commentary in the next sentence
• "made the film the "'Animal House of the iPhone generation"" - this is redundant as there is already a compararison to Animal House. Maybe discuss the reasons that so many reviewers have compared this film to AH?
• I have reworked the charts paragraph of the soundtrack album section to link to specific charts and improve reading. The album also charted in other countries [1] [2] (look for others too). Have you researched information on the development/selection of music for the soundtrack? Also, you should reference the music genres of the album.
• " Bacall began writing the treatment" - treatment? Pick a better word.

I will place the review on hold while my above comments are addressed, after which I shall take another look at the article. —Andrew_stalk 03:37, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Response

• In the first dollar amount, state that this is in US$ (WP:CURRENCY)
• I think one-sentence mention of the sequel is appropriate to be included in the lead.
• "The cast is rounded out by..." - what does this mean? Is this just another way of saying "other actors are..."? If so, why is it broken into this statement as well as "Additional cast includes..."
• In terms of casting, is it known which actors have previous acting experience?
• "before choosing the digital-HD Sony F23 video camera, basing their decision on its camera's ability" - what do you mean by "its camera"? Perhaps remove "camera's".
• "The film grossed $54,731,865 in the United States and Canada and $46,200,000 from markets elsewhere – a worldwide total of $100,931,865." - I know it's under the box office heading, but specify that these sums are box office figures (not including home video)
• "Young male audiences, which had decreased throughout 2011 from the previous year saw an increase for the opening weekend, with 58% of the audience skewing male and 67% of those being under the age of 25." - I can work out what this sentence means, but please rewrite for better clarity
• "The film garnered 28% approval from 127 critics on Rotten Tomatoes – an average score of 4.2 out of 10 – whose consensus reads: "Unoriginal, unfunny, and all-around unattractive, Project X mines the depths of the teen movie and found-footage genres for 87 minutes of predictably mean-spirited debauchery."[33] and earned a score of 48 out of 100 from 25 critics on review aggregate website Metacritic,[34] indicating "mixed or average."" - either split this into two sentences (RT and MC) or rewrite. There shouldn't be a full stop at the end of the "mean-spirited debauchery" quote, as the quote is in the middle of a sentence.
• "Chris Hewitt of Empire gave the film one star out of five, and referred to the central characters portrayed by Mann, Cooper, and Brown, as "spectacularly unlikeable", labeling them as "unrepentant, nihilistic, vile, venal, animalistic, avaricious, charmless, entitled, sub-Kardashian, stunningly irresponsible brats"." - iffy prose; please rework

I don't know what you mean by iffy prose

It doesn't read very clearly. Please rewrite the sentence. —Andrew_stalk 02:51, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

• "Robbie Collin of The Telegraph called the film "flamboyantly loathsome on every imaginable level" and compared the leads to Superbad, saying "unlike Superbad's leads, these three are poisonously unpleasant, and the supposedly comedic banter between them comes off as bullying."" - how is this a comparison?
• Is there a reason for the third paragraph of 'Critical reception' being two sentences long, and not part of the previous paragraph?

It's specifically about criticism directed towards one cast member and unrelated to the other paragraphs

• "Not all reviews were negative however." - rewrite, or delete and introduce positive commentary in the next sentence
• "made the film the "'Animal House of the iPhone generation"" - this is redundant as there is already a compararison to Animal House. Maybe discuss the reasons that so many reviewers have compared this film to AH?

This is the first comparison made to Animal House, its the first review to reference it.

How about 'because of its "funny" script and skilled editing, Neil Genzlinger of The New York Times positively compared the film to the 1978 comedy Animal House'? What comparison does Pete Travers of Rolling Stone make between the two films? —Andrew_stalk 02:51, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Rewrote the first one, removed the Travers one, it's not very clear what point he is making in the review to draw something useful from it. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 02:19, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

• I have reworked the charts paragraph of the soundtrack album section to link to specific charts and improve reading. The album also charted in other countries [3] [4] (look for others too). Have you researched information on the development/selection of music for the soundtrack? Also, you should reference the music genres of the album.

There's not really anything I can do here, I tried researching in the past, the information isn't available or at least findable by myself.

I've added the charting info. In future, if you can't find reliable sources for genre(s), don't add any. —Andrew_stalk 02:51, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

• " Bacall began writing the treatment" - treatment? Pick a better word.
• [5] is down at the moment. If you can, replace it with an archive or paper copy, but don't remove the info if you can't. —Andrew_stalk 02:51, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Think that's everything so far. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 02:19, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Nice work; I'll list it now. Well done. —Andrew_stalk 05:54, 25 December 2012 (UTC)