Talk:President-elect of the United States

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While I don't doubt the election was genuine, given the fact that Trump has not conceded it might not be wise to declare Biden President Elect until the Electoral College meets in a month. Thus, I feel as if we should try and make it more clear that the office is not truly his for another month. In previous elections by the time the EC met the losing candidate had already conceded, whereas this time Trump might try and influence electors to go faithless and vote for him enough for a Trump victory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by APenInSpace (talk • contribs) 03:09, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see the recently added language of is considered by most American media outlets... and by most media outlets... his victory is yet to be officially confirmed as a fair compromise. It is both accurate and acknowledges that the president-elect is not an objective fact at this point. Fizzbuzz306 (talk) 01:17, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good grief - I certainly don't. What happened to this page? There's no doubt about the outcome of the election. The right-wing media is calling Biden the President-elect, as are former Republican presidents. Just because one fool in the White House has their head stuck in the clouds doesn't mean we should be rewriting Wikipedia to use use terms not in common usage, simply to keep some extreme right-wingers happy! Nfitz (talk) 02:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You saw the discussion in the talk page, saw that I specifically noted the wording and you removed it anyways? You should self-revert. Fizzbuzz306 (talk) 02:56, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As per the discussion itself - this is not to "keep some extreme right-wingers happy". This is to improve the quality of the page. As "president-elect" as not an objective term, attribution is warranted. Fizzbuzz306 (talk) 02:59, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I find this tirade off the rails and offensive to the tolerant language expected at Wikipedia. "Fool in the White House..." is inappropriate here, or anywhere on Wikipedia. Let's keep in cordial and non-toxic, so that all may feel welcome to participate. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT ^PRAISE 22:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And we reflect the WP:WEIGHT of reliable sources.—Bagumba (talk) 01:58, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree with Fizzbuzz306. There is no exact definition either way. No one here is trying to appease ‘extreme right-wingers’. This election is clearly being contested by a relevant party to the contest. The ostensible president-elect is Joe Biden, but what harm is there in waiting until the election is certified? Wikipedia is not a news source; we have no reason to be the first to report on something. We do, however, have an obligation to remain neutral and not let our personal opinions leach into the writing. Wikipedia reports on and provides information on the political process; it does not participate in it.

The fact remains that the opponent of Joe Biden is contesting the election. It is irrelevant how substantial his allegations are. We report his allegations, and they are relevant to this article. We can equally report the responses to his allegations. We, however, do not conduct original research. In saying this, I mean that we have a reasonable obligation to mention that Donald Trump and his campaign contest the results; the media (regardless of being ‘right-wing’ or not) report Joe Biden as president-elect. And we can add legitimate and reliable sources detailing Trump’s allegations, and those sources may contain more information about the allegations that we can use. Mobeelex (talk) 02:22, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If we are to report the allegations I propose a subsection of the article specifically about the 2020 election. WulfNorth (talk) 14:39, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are plenty of other articles about the 2020 election, so if we're going this route, it should just be a link to one of these articles. The big question is whether it's appropriate for Wikipedia to become part of the media that is proclaiming Biden the president-elect, thereby subverting the role of the court system in making judgements on challenges to the results. Pkeets (talk) 02:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FAQ relevancy

Seeing as Biden has been U.S. President for 'bout four months, is it alright if we delete the FAQ at the top of this talkpage? GoodDay (talk) 22:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Style in infobox is "The Honorable"?

I have never seen press refer to a president-elect as "The Honorable [Name]", is this vandalism, or some sort of remnant from British law? JohnR1Roberts (talk) 16:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No idea Yusuf Michael (talk) 07:36, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know where I might be able to share this inquiry to get more feedback from other Wikipedians? Thanks in advance. JohnR1Roberts (talk) 20:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is cited over at The_Honourable#United_States. I make no claim the citation is accurate or reliable, I haven't checked. --Yamla (talk) 20:04, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]