Talk:Physiology of underwater diving

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Section size for Physiology of underwater diving (24 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	6,083	6,083
Range of performance	2,110	2,110
Marine mammals	7,508	56,359
Pinnipeds	3,517	19,172
Phocid seals	13,047	13,047
Eared seals	1,755	1,755
Walrus	853	853
Cetaceans	1,063	24,147
Beaked whales	5,502	5,502
Sperm whale	3,765	3,765
Dolphins	3,794	3,794
Baleen whales	10,023	10,023
Sirenians	2,853	2,853
Carnivorans	2,679	2,679
Diving birds	4,510	6,547
Penguins	2,037	2,037
Aquatic reptiles	2,044	12,064
Extinct taxa	1,428	1,428
Sea turtles	3,917	8,592
Leatherback	1,742	1,742
Green turtles	2,933	2,933
Decompression sickness	1,941	1,941
History	622	622
References	41,204	41,204
Total	126,930	126,930

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It may be desirable to split out Physiology of diving mammals (or Diving physiology of mammals) at some stage, but it would probably be worth polishing the current content up a bit first. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 10:15, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Southwood, I don't do physiology, I'm a population modeller - but I know there's any amount of papers on diving physiology in penguins in particular. Mostly paywalled, natch. If you can give me an idea what topics you are looking for, I could pull & send you a bunch? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:30, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Elmidae, Strictly speaking I don't do physiology either, I am an engineer and a diving educationalist, but we chip in when and where we can if no-one else is doing what is needed, and this is interesting. Most useful would be review articles on the adaptations for diving of penguins, if such a thing is available, or I might be able to select from a list of titles. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 18:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Right ho, I'll have a look. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 20:57, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Southwood: Found a few articles that sound promising. In particular there's several interesting reviews by one P.J. Butler.

Ponganis, P. J., Meir, J. U., & Williams, C. L. (2011). In pursuit of Irving and Scholander: a review of oxygen store management in seals and penguins. Journal of Experimental Biology, 214(20), 3325-3339.
Available online at https://jeb.biologists.org/content/214/20/3325 Possibly useful.
Schreer, J. F., & Kovacs, K. M. (1997). Allometry of diving capacity in air-breathing vertebrates. Canadian Journal of Zoology, 75(3), 339-358.
Unable to access online.
Butler, P. J. (2000). Energetic costs of surface swimming and diving of birds. Physiological and Biochemical Zoology, 73(6), 699-705.
Can read abstract online, looks a bit limited. Try others first.
Butler, P. J. (2004). Metabolic regulation in diving birds and mammals. Respiratory physiology & neurobiology, 141(3), 297-315.
Unable to access online.
Butler, P. J. (2001). Diving beyond the limits. Physiology, 16(5), 222-227.
Available online at https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/physiologyonline.2001.16.5.222
Noren, S. R., Williams, T. M., Pabst, D. A., Mclellan, W. A., & Dearolf, J. L. (2001). The development of diving in marine endotherms: preparing the skeletal muscles of dolphins, penguins, and seals for activity during submergence. Journal of Comparative Physiology B, 171(2), 127-134.
Available online at https://williams.eeb.ucsc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/EndothermDivingDevelopment_NorenEtAl2001.pdf
Elliott, K. H., Ricklefs, R. E., Gaston, A. J., Hatch, S. A., Speakman, J. R., & Davoren, G. K. (2013). High flight costs, but low dive costs, in auks support the biomechanical hypothesis for flightlessness in penguins. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 110(23), 9380-9384.
Available online at https://www.pnas.org/content/110/23/9380.full

If these sound useful, I can email you the lot. Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 02:51, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like I can access some of them online, so not much point in sending those. Give me a day or two to see what I can access myself. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 19:51, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Elmidae:, The three below might be useful to email. The others I can read online. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 05:11, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Schreer, J. F., & Kovacs, K. M. (1997). Allometry of diving capacity in air-breathing vertebrates. Canadian Journal of Zoology, 75(3), 339-358.
Butler, P. J. (2000). Energetic costs of surface swimming and diving of birds. Physiological and Biochemical Zoology, 73(6), 699-705.
Butler, P. J. (2004). Metabolic regulation in diving birds and mammals. Respiratory physiology & neurobiology, 141(3), 297-315.

@Pbsouthwood: Sure. I believe for that to work, you might have to drop me an email so that I have an address to send attachments to (can't attach anything to WP emails). --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:30, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 07:20, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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