Talk:Perth cable car

aerial lift - cable car

Regarding these edits [1] [2][3]:

• The inclusion of a parenthesised term in the current wording - "proposed aerial lift (cable car)" - appears to me to be poor wording. In general, I don't think we should include a parenthesised term.
• Given that the references use the term "cable car", I think the article should also use that term. If we absolutely must use both terms, it should be "cable car (aerial lift)".
• MOS:TIES may apply here
• What's the difference between an aerial lift and a cable car anyway? Those two articles are less than helpful. (Should they be merged?) Aerial lift says that a cable car is a type of aerial lift, and Cable car implies that an aerial lift is a type of cable car.

Mitch Ames (talk) 12:19, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

The question asking "what's the difference?" - that's a good question! I've asked it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Transport but have not had an answer as of yet. It wouldn't be easier if there weren't regional differences - i.e. "cable car" in San Francisco refers to their systems that are more like Australia's trams (although powered differently, as I understand it) whereas in Australia a cable car is definitely something that travels through the air. A cable car that uses small cabins (like the Taronga Zoo or Kuranda Skyrail) that loop around in a circle at each end is referred to as a "gondola lift" in the US, and a larger cabin that shuttles back and forth like the Katoomba Scenic Skyway is referred to as an "aerial tramway". "Aerial lift" is the general, international term for all of the above (and including chairlifts as well). It's even harder when discussing proposed systems where the specific type of system may not even be confirmed (and in Hobart, there is a proposed system which is in two sections, one "gondola-style" and one "aerial tram-style"! -- Chuq (talk) 12:41, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

The sources seem to all use cable car so we should go with that. Hack (talk) 12:51, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

The sources are Australian though, and the cable car article uses a different (non-Australian) definition. -- Chuq (talk) 20:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Using the term "cable car" in the article, but piping to Aerial lift#Aerial tramway or Aerial tramway or Aerial lift#Gondola lift or Gondola lift is an option.

(Cable car, gondola lift, aerial lift, aerial tramway - some serious merging is required, I suspect!)

Mitch Ames (talk) 00:11, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

it doesnt exist, is unlikely to exist, why the categories?

It seems this article is a mere record of a planned unlikely to be completed project - it is not a cable car, it is a proposed one - there is a big difference between a proposed project compared to a completed one. JarrahTree 08:01, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

For the benefit of editors who might only look at the current version of the article, JarrahTree might like to advise whether the categories referred to are those were removed by JarrahTree's edit. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:54, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Mitch - those or any other - it has never been a part of a transport system or set of active cable cars - because it has never existed - surely that is sufficient ? Or do you need something else? JarrahTree 09:56, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

An explicit statement of what categories you are referring to in the section heading would be helpful. Looking at the current version of the article is certainly not going to help anybody work out what your original post is about. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:30, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Mitch - the cable car belongs to the 'proposed' realm - which means it does not belong to 'cable car' or 'transport' categories which is what usually gets tagged to such articles... it belongs in the 'proposed transport project' categories -

Category:Transport in Perth, Western Australia

Category:Aerial lifts in Australia

Neither of those categories are currently relevant to this item. JarrahTree 12:48, 21 May 2017 (UTC)