Talk:People...Hold On

People...Hold On is currently an Albums good article nominee. Nominated by reppop^talk at 15:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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On 29 August 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from People ... Hold On. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 29 August 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved to People...Hold On. Choosing People...Hold On as that was the only option with a support comment, and an attempt at searching WP:RSSE with a few queries seems to support the claim, although, as noted, a redirect from People...Hold On would have been fine to make in the first place and somebody probably would have made one regardless of the outcome of this discussion. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 15:27, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People ... Hold On → ? – Looking through sources, a lot of them have the title be either People... Hold On or People...Hold On, and I'm not sure which would be the more correct title. reppop^talk 01:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 02:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: I think I'm seeing more People...Hold On without the space, in my source search. Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: First relist. RodRabelo7 (talk) 02:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. MOS:ELLIPSIS would seem to favor the current title, but it's fairly unimportant which is used as long as the other two redirect there. Station1 (talk) 05:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure I agree with that reading of MOS:ELLIPSIS, actually; I think the album's title is using the "pause or suspension of speech" usage of the triple dots, in which case MOS:ELLIPSIS recommends retaining the punctuation in its original form. (However, I do agree that, as long as all three permutations ultimately point to the same article, it's not a huge deal which one is the main title.) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:People...Hold On/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Reppop (talk · contribs) 15:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Locust member (talk · contribs) 04:23, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'll be reviewing this album over the next couple of days, I will probably start tomorrow. Locust member (talk) 04:23, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Well-written

Lead

People...Hold On is the second studio album by American singer Eddie Kendricks - "People...Hold On is the second studio album by the American singer Eddie Kendricks" per WP:FALSETITLE

released in May 1972 by Tamla Records - "released in May 1972, by Tamla Records" per MOS:DATE

His second album after leaving the Temptations in 1971, and it proved to be his breakout album. - would remove "and"

It marked a departure from Kendricks' previous pop-oriented sound, embracing a more socially conscious and urban style. - wikilink pop

"Girl You Need a Change of Mind" standing out as one of the first disco and dance records - the body explains how it was a prototype for disco, but not dance. also, wikilink disco

The album's success in dance clubs laid the groundwork for Kendricks' upcoming number one song, "Keep On Truckin'". - the body says that "Girl You Need a Change of Mind" was popular in dance clubs, but not the whole album, nor is "Keep on Truckin'" mentioned in the body.

Done above, removed last one and added "and becoming popular in New York City dance clubs" to sentence before.

Background and recording

Eddie Kendricks had been a founding member of The Temptations since 1960. - "Eddie Kendricks had been a founding member of the Temptations since 1960. per MOS:THECAPS

That same year, he discovered the band The Young Senators - same as above

was one of the last album to be recorded at Motown's Hitsville U.S.A. studio - "was one of the last albums to be recorded..."

Done above.

Music

People...Hold On is noted for being less pop-oriented - wikilink pop

The third single, "Girl You Need a Change of Mind," is noted for its gospel influence - wikilink gospel

Done above.

Reception and commercial performance

Billboard described the album as having Kendricks's "best performance to day" - change to "Kendricks' " to be consistent with rest of the article, and "best performance to date"

Done.

Impact and legacy

Just months before, Stevie Wonder released Where I'm Coming From - according to Albumism, Where I'm Coming From was released over a year before People... Hold On. I would change to "A year prior, Stevie Wonder released Where I'm Coming From"

and shortly after Kendricks' release, Marvin Gaye's What's Going On was released - What's Going On was released in 1971 while People...Hold On was released in 1972, per your source. I would just simply say, "and shortly after, Marvin Gaye's What's Going On was released." also, make sure to italicize What's Going On

"Date with the Rain" was notably sampled in Lil Wayne's "Let The Beat Build" - Neither of the sources say the sample was notable, so I'd get rid of "notably", and change to "Let the Beat Build" per MOS:THECAPS

In May 2023, vocalist Billy Valentine covered the song on his album Billy Valentine And The Universal Truth. - "Billy Valentine and the Universal Truth" per WP:MOSCAPS

Done above.

Factually accurate and verifiable

Lead

* The album took some time to gain traction, with sales gradually building, particularly in New York City, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C. Six months after its release, the album charted at number 131 on the Billboard Top LPs and Tape and number 13 on Soul LPs. - a lot of this is not addressed in the body. the fact it charted is addressed, but the fact that it took some time to gain traction and it did not chart until six months after it was released is not explained in the body.

Still working on this, will get back shortly.

Background and recording

the Albumism source doesn't say he was a founding member, only that he had a tenure with the group. would replace with this source

Added suggested source to sentence.

Kendricks signed a solo deal with Motown's Tamla division - the source has no mention of Tamla

Removed

In April 1971, Kendricks released his debut solo album, All by Myself, which peaked at number 80 on the Billboard Top LPs & Tape. - this is not sourced

Added chart history source from Billboard.

The Young Senators began touring with Kendricks the following year and started recording his next album. - source has no mention of touring, only that they became the backing band for People...Hold On

Added the DownBeat article that says "The Young Senators toured extensively with Kendricks during his early solo performances, despite not having played on his 1971 disc.

Reception and commercial performance

The album charted moderately well, peaking at number 13 on Billboard’s Soul LPs chart and reaching number 131 on the Top LPs & Tape. - The first source doesn't have any mention of People...Hold On, and the second source shows it charted number 13 on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums. However, this source shows it charted number 131 on the Billboard 200.

Added to sentence.

Impact and legacy

"Date with the Rain" was notably sampled in Lil Wayne's "Let The Beat Build" - Both sources say "Day by Day" is sampled, not "Date with the Rain"

Replaced.

Overall article

The uDiscover Music source at source [12], [14], and [29] is fine since it is not biased information or really opinionated. Though, please remove it in the Reception section as it is owned by UMG, and should not be used in that section at all. See this source on why it is generally unreliable.

Removed.

copyvio looks good, only 24.2%!

Broad in its coverage

Would say so. Short but has the key information.

Neutral point of view

Yep.

Stable

Appears to be.

Illustrated

Yep, all photos are appropriate and the cover has fair use rationale.

Overall

@Reppop:, nice work so far! Just make sure to address the remaining comments and I'll pass this on. Locust member (talk) 15:23, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]