Talk:Pennsylvania Polka

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There really should be a disambiguation page for "Pennsylvania Polka" as it is also the name of a fairly recognizable polka song performed by the Andrew Sisters, Frankie Yankovic, and the Wiggles among others. --2601:545:C001:E660:1543:FB4D:FE52:2CE0 (talk) 01:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@2601:545:C001:E660:1543:FB4D:FE52:2CE0: I've added a hatnote to address the song title with the same name. Eagles 24/7 (C) 02:15, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The undisambiguated title is still a problem since the topic of this article is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Pennsylvania Polka". Wikipedia page views are 3x greater for the song than for the football affair named after it. Google (web), Google Books, and JSTOR search results for "Pennsylvania Polka" refer mostly to the song. Perhaps a move is in order? T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 17:31, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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– The series of American football transactions made in 1940–1941 is not the primary topic. Wikipedia page views are 3x greater for Pennsylvania Polka (song) than for the football affair named after the song by sports historians. Google (web), Google Books, and JSTOR search results for "Pennsylvania Polka" refer mostly to the song. T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 04:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 04:00, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Pennsylvania polka (American football). MOS:CAPS. Theparties (talk) 05:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Proper names of specific events (e.g., Boston Tea Party, Saturday Night Massacre) are conventionally capitalized. T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 15:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since it is named after the dance it should follow MOS:DANCECAPS. Theparties (talk) 15:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
MOS:DANCECAPS does not override MOS:PROPERNAME, hence Tennessee Waltz and Last Tango in Paris. "Pennsylvania Polka" (in reference to the events) is treated as a capitalized proper name across multiple independent reliable sources ([1], [2], [3]). T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 17:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tennessee Waltz is a song while Last Tango in Paris is a film so capitalization is inherent with the titles. Pennsylvania polka, on the otherhand is an event more like a dance so MOS:PROPERNAME does not apply. Theparties (talk) 21:18, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The term "Pennsylvania Polka" as used in this article is a nickname for a specific historical event — and therefore a proper name. It is not a generic descriptive term like "Eagles-Steelers transactions of 1940–41". So MOS:PROPERNAME applies, as it does to other recognized proper names for specific occurrences such as French Revolution, Great Depression, Cold War, Boston Tea Party, and Helmet Catch. That the event shares its name with a fictional dance mentioned in a popular song does not make the proper name any less a proper name or any less subject to MOS:PROPERNAME. We shouldn't treat "Pennsylvania Polka" (the football acts) as a generic phrase when reliable sources consistently don't. T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 20:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move Pennsylvania Polka (song) to Pennsylvania Polka. Theparties (talk) 16:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. See Talk:Pennsylvania Polka (song)#Requested move 20 December 2024. Theparties (talk) 17:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: RMCD bot is complaining that "Pennsylvania Polka is requested for move in a conflicting RM discussion". Since everyone here supports that other RM, I'll simply combine the two. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 04:00, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The song is primary: Pennsylvania Polka (song) to Pennsylvania Polka, strike up the music. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom (including retaining capital Polka) capitalization. And, of course, add a hatnote to the song article pointing to the the football-related article once the song is at the base name. Skynxnex (talk) 16:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]