Talk:Patrick Madden (essayist)

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Awards

Scope creep, thank you for the work you've done on this. I have a concern about the awards section. I clicked on the last one, and it doesn't seem to support that Madden was the winner.

It's the 2017 15 Bytes Book Award. The source used in the article lists Madden as a finalist in the "creative nonfiction" category. But this source says that Immortal for Quite Some Time by Scott Abbott was the winner in that category. Would you mind checking that I'm reading the sources correctly? SarahSV ^(talk) 00:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be the same with "2017 Council of Literary Magazines and Presses Firecracker Award for Sublime Physick". The source lists him as a finalist, not a winner. SarahSV ^(talk) 00:49, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @SarahSV: Yip, it seems so. I wonder why that was done? There was no need puff it up. Vanity possibly or a simple mistake. scope_creep^Talk 01:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I must be knackered or half-dead with lack of sleep. Of course its puffiness, I copyedit this afternoon. It was all puff. scope_creep^Talk 01:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What's needed are independent secondary sources. As for the awards, he was listed in one as the gold winner when it was the silver, and in three cases he was a finalist, rather than a winner, so I've moved them to a "finalist" section. I don't think we would normally include finalists, unless perhaps it was a very notable award, but I'm not sure about that. SarahSV ^(talk) 19:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]