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This Article Must Be Rewritten or Deleted

This article pays some lip-service to the fact that the Pamiętnik handlowca ("Memoir of a Mercantilist") is most likely a fraud, but the original author (@Drbogdan:) clearly wishes to present it as a reliable source. The other secondary sources he cites generally depend on the fraudulent "memoir". As far as I've been able to discover, the only reliable secondary sources on this matter are Pula, James S. (2008). "Fact vs. Fiction: What Do We Really Know About The Polish Presence In Early Jamestown?". The Polish Review 53 (4): 477–493; and Barbour, Philip L. (January 1964). "The Identity of the First Poles in America". The William and Mary Quarterly 21 (1): 77–92. They make it very plain that the "memoir" is, at best, an unlikely and unreliable source. If this article is rewritten to reflect those authors' conclusions, I'll be content for it to remain on Wikipedia. Otherwise, I'll be requesting its deletion. J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 19:01, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Jdcrutch: - CORRECTION - No - I am not the original author of the "Pamiętnik handlowca" article - apparently, User:Pola.mola (in April 2013) created the original article according to the article history - OTOH - I have tried to improve the article starting at the time I first became aware of the article in October 2014 (by adding the better supporting references noted above — ie, Pula^[1] and Barbour^[2] — and updating the article text accordingly) - hope this all helps in some way - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 19:24, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

^ Pula, James S. (2008). "Fact vs. Fiction: What Do We Really Know About The Polish Presence In Early Jamestown?". The Polish Review. 53 (4): 477–493. Retrieved October 8, 2014.
^ Barbour, Philip L. (January 1964). "The Identity of the First Poles in America". The William and Mary Quarterly. 21 (1): 77–92. Retrieved October 9, 2014.

My apologies for the misidentification. The problems with the article, however, remain.J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 19:29, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comment - no problem whatsoever - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 00:50, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jdcrutch, I did some c/e and I think all the issues are resolved. Except I am not sure what is the relevance of the last paragraph, which seems more about some event related to the early history of Jamestown than to this purported book? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[factvsfiction-1] Pula, James S. (2008). "Fact vs. Fiction: What Do We Really Know About The Polish Presence In Early Jamestown?". The Polish Review. 53 (4): 477–493. Retrieved October 8, 2014.

[Barbour-1964-2] Barbour, Philip L. (January 1964). "The Identity of the First Poles in America". The William and Mary Quarterly. 21 (1): 77–92. Retrieved October 9, 2014.

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