Talk:Palestinian keffiyeh/Archive 1

Archive 1

Love44444all

it represents palestinian nationalism and has nothing to do with terrorism not only is this article misleading it is racist and encourages Muslim hate crimes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Love44444all (talk • contribs) 18:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2021

THIS IS DEFAMATION!!!!!!!!!!

Palestinian keffiyeh is not a representation of terrorist.

2601:586:300:710:DF8:85D5:1270:99A3 (talk) 05:42, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: The article only expresses that one company removed it from their store because they believed that, not that it is the case. Companies are allowed to express their opinions and regulate their products, even if they're wrong. — IVORK _Talk 06:06, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Palestian keffiyeh is not a representation of terrorist. Aflah albusaidi (talk) 06:17, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@Aflah albusaidi: what about the article implies the keffiyeh as a representation of terrorism? TGHL ↗ 🍁 18:24, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Palestian keffiyeh is not a representation of terrorist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.102.202.49 (talk) 10:36, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Change this sh1t , palestine kuffyah it's not A terrorist thing !!!!!

Palestine kuffyah it's no it's a terrorist thing you're teaching people are wrong things delete it or change it this is so racist racism it's not for black people .. you are doing a racism on Palestinian and Muslim and Arab people !!!!! Almutairiren67777 (talk) 00:30, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. The article text you may be referring to is one quote, from one company, in one instance: not exactly a worldwide view on a particular subject. TGHL ↗ 🍁 00:41, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2021

This article is not true, and is a source for spreading hate and racism. Kofiyyeh is a palestinian traditional scarf not related to any terrorist party or group.

Please remove this article Lobna.abuserrieh (talk) 01:31, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

This article is not true, and is a source for spreading hate and racism. Kofiyyeh is a palestinian traditional scarf not related to any terrorist party or group. Lobna.abuserrieh (talk) 01:32, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: We try to keep articles bias, hate, and racism free, and use a neutral point of view when writing these articles. If you could provide specific details where you feel the article is biased in a way that spreads hate and racism, please let us know and provide details. Thanks! Ben ❯❯❯ Talk 01:45, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Please change

Please change "In 2007, the American clothing store chain Urban Outfitters stopped selling keffiyehs after “a pro-Israel activist… complained about the items”, and the store also issued a statement that “the company had not intended ‘to imply any sympathy for or support of terrorists or terrorism’ in selling the keffiyehs and was pulling them” to "The keffiyeh print has been many times used in fashion by brands such as Topshop, Asos, Cecilie Copenhagen, Boohoo or the Isreali brand Dodo Bar Or, bringing controversy and debates about cultural appropriation. In 2007, the American clothing store chain Urban Outfitters stopped selling keffiyehs sold under the name of "anti-war scarves" after facing criticism. Urban Outfitters issued the following statement: "Due to the sensitive nature of this item, we will no longer offer it for sale. We apologize if we offended anyone. This was by no means our intention."

Source of former quote "the Jerusalem post" is not objective enough in the Israelo-Palestinian conflict, with no proof of the quote sent to a "Jewish CEO" (and does not match the section "Palestinian Solidarity")

Sources https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2019/aug/09/the-keffiyeh-symbol-of-palestinian-struggle-falls-victim-to-fashion https://brill.com/view/book/9789004435926/BP000013.xml?language=en — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolinatru744 (talk • contribs) 12:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@Bolinatru744:  Partly done: (Diff) The second source you supplied simply quote an existing NYT citation, however your first sentence was inserted and the new quotation of the statement has been added. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TGHL ↗ 🍁 02:42, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Glick opinion piece removed as undue

I removed the short paragraph that was without a link in the ref, but I found it here. I believe it is WP:UNDUE as the mention of keffiyah is a minor point. The entire sentence reads "The fact that the Palestinians don ski masks and keffiyehs rather than brown shirts and swastikas also makes us undervalue the fact that, like the Nazis, the Palestinians are utilizing all their technological know-how and military resources to kill Jews and are making their best efforts to constantly improve and enhance these resources to increase their kill rate." It is not the ski masks and keffiyehs that are the focus of this sentence, and as far as I can see the mention of keffiyehs received no coverage in published, reliable sources. So I removed as too insignificant to bring up in the article. Sjö (talk) 04:27, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2021 (2)

This is wrong keffiyeh is not worn by terrorists..Its just wrong 37.111.128.117 (talk) 07:12, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- Asartea ^{Talk | Contribs} 09:25, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Misleading answer.

I do not see any relationship between what the Palestinians wear and the patriotic clothes of a people .. I think this answer is provocative and misleading. Aburataj2 (talk) 14:41, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@Aburataj2: Are you referring to the Urban Outfitters quote? How would you like that section changed? TGHL ↗ 🍁 15:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

I think that Aburataj2 might mean the answer to a Google search of something like what do Palestinians wear on their head. If that is the case then I want to tell Aburataj2 that we are not Google, and we have no way to decide the order in which Google lists its results. Wikipedia is accountable for what you can see in our articles, but Google is accountable for how Google presents the answers to your web searches.Sjö (talk) 11:41, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST

Hello, there was no Palestinian nationalism so to speak in 1938, but rather a Palestinian Arab nationalism which promoted mainly pan Arabism. There is a clear anachronism, it should be written in 1938 Arab Palestinian nationalism or simply Arab nationalism in Palestine.--Jonamich (talk) 12:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Run n Fly (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Racist

That is not true. It is so racist and do misleading. Correct it Wikipedia! Shahnaz2806 (talk) 10:01, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2021

2409:4072:6407:6CC6:32AE:9AEE:E525:9116 (talk) 03:40, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Palestinian keffiyeh (Arabic: كوفية‎, romanized: koofiyyeh) is a chequered black and white scarf that is usually worn around the neck or head. This keffiyeh has become a symbol of Palestinian nationalism, dating back to the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine I want to change this . What means particularly Palestinian doesn't wear anything . It's all upto thier countries Palestine is an Arab country so it wear keffiyah . If it in America they wear face mask .or anything else so please don't spread this type of vandalism

 Not done: We can't fix Google, and the article as it states doesn't say this is a terrorist thing (the only mention is in a quoted statement). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

misleading and racist!

it represents palestinian nationalism and has nothing to do with terrorism not only is this article misleading it is racist and encourages Muslim hate crimes Batooltuffaha (talk) 12:33, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Not true Khaledvet77 (talk) 23:10, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Kuffeyeh is not a sign of terrorism, this is racism. Terrorism is stealing the land of others. while those people in Palestine wants to retake their lands. This symbolism should be deleted immediately. 176.29.93.10 (talk) 05:31, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

This is misleading and racist, Palestinian Kufeye is a national simple of the Palestinian culture and people. Ehabz112 (talk) 18:14, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Extended-protected edit request on 05 June 2021

I believe it is possible for this line to be removed

"The company stated they had not intended "to imply any sympathy for or support of terrorists or terrorism"[10] and that offence "was by no means [their] intention".[2]"

There are already links to the statements. Removing this reference would significantly reduce the relevance of this page for queries in Google that are controversial. It would allow other content to surface that addresses the negative connotations more succinctly in a manner not specific to one group's traditional headwear.

The use of specific words has been highlighted by Google Search Liason @dannysullivan as being a factor being taken out of context. [1] AndrzejBroda (talk) 14:18, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

 Note: Added notice to attract attention from editors. @AndrzejBroda: my two cents? This problem is on Google's side, by picking up keywords from this specific quote with a reliable source (The New York Times). This article makes it clear this is the message Urban Outfitters wishes to convey, with specific quotations to back it up. Take this up with Google's support as this is only on their end – alternatives such as DuckDuckGo to not presently show this article under the search of "What do terrorists wear on their heads?". [2] TGHL ↗ 🍁 14:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Given that this statement is subject to some controversy, it would be helpful to establish a consensus here as to whether or not removing the statement is the right choice, especially given that it is sourced. I will side with User:TheGoodAndHolyLord in this case; I believe that the problem stems with Google, and Mr. Sullivan has indicated that his team will look into it. We on Wikipedia can't be entirely responsible for the goings-on at search engines, and reaching out to the search liaison in this case was the correct choice.  A S U K I T E  01:55, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

@TheGoodAndHolyLord and Asukite: The DuckDuckGo search result also includes 2 Wikipedia pages related to keffiyeh DuckDuckGo result screenshot Most of the results seem to be about the controversy caused by this article ranking for multiple search queries, because of the 2 words included within it.

At this time Google doesn't seem to have taken action unless it is removing images. Location, personalization etc play a factor.

You are implying that Urban Outfitters continually want to be associated with selling keffiyeh. From an SEO perspective, it is not necessarily bad to be continually linked to over something you have apologised for, but there is still the brand association. "The company issued an official statement [2]" would be the easiest edit without removing links. There isn't a need for the quotation here.

I am not implying Wikipedia are responsible. I am saying that if Wikipedia has a very easy way to help the situation, editing a single line, then it can help rectify the continual problems. Entities and proximity in relation to links matter a lot to Google. It is why their search results are generally better than other search engines. I am sure there are 1000s of search queries that would be embarrassing for DuckDuckGo, but they are not used by as many people, so less harm caused. I will reach out to someone from Urban Outfitters. Maybe their input would be of benefit.AndrzejBroda (talk) 14:04, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:19, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 December 2021

• This article is full of lies as the Palestinian People are Arab people from the area. There is no seperate culture for them, and they are basically Jordanian, Saudi, Egyptian etc. The poem that appears there is racist and antisemitic. it says "Now these dogs are starting to wear it as a trend". "These dogs" is a clear reference to the Jewish People.
• These racism and lies are unaccptable in Wikipedia. Duke of Somewhere (talk) 07:14, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:15, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

All wrong

What a racist corner that is not what "terroristx wear 2601:586:8003:4AC0:3056:B1D0:558C:4748 (talk) 12:03, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

"Production in Palestine"

"Today, this symbol of Palestinian identity is now largely imported from China. With the scarf's growing popularity in the 2000s, Chinese manufacturers entered the market, driving Palestinians out of the business."

The Mother Jones article is basically a double-whammy hit piece on both pro-Palestinian wearers of the keffiyeh and on China, all without citing a single source for their claims. Moreover, the ed concocting the above relies on weasel words (i.e. the non-quantifiable "largely") and blatant POV language like "driving Palestinians out of business", all based on the single source-free article which is basically an anti-Palestinian editorial written by an Israeli. Finally, there is no mention of more recent articles with journalists visiting the Hirbawi factory when all 14 looms were operational.

Can we do better, Ziopedia??? (Or is that Sinophobopedia?) 142.198.135.5 (talk) 01:34, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

The last line wasn't entirely necessary, but you raise some good points, and we can always do better. After all, Wikipedia is based on continuous improvement.

First, per WP:MOTHERJONES, Mother Jones is considered generally reliable for factual information, but is also considered biased, and statements should be attributed. There are some issues though. It doesn't say that all keffiyehs (is that the plural?) are made in China, but the article currently does. That should be fixed, but I'd like to get this discussion sorted first.

It is quite common that imported goods from a country with lower labour costs and high production capacity will tend to reduce the profitability of locally produced goods, causing a decline in local production. Usually this is not complete (i.e. totally driven out of business), but it certainly can be for a country with a developing economy, like Palestine. The origin of those imported goods may not necessarily be China, but here, the reliable source says it is, unless other sources disagree.

"Driving out of business" does seem a bit POV, perhaps "causing a decline in local production" would do better, particularly in light of the next point.

It does say that the last factory is "shutting down" (future tense, anticipative), but if a later source has indicated that it managed to keep open, then it could most certainly be added, as the Mother Jones article only claims that it was in imminent danger of shutting down at the time of publication. It is possible that, by drawing attention to the plight of the industry, journalists (not necessarily MoJo) have caused a resurgence in interest for Palestinian-made keffiyehs.

Not all Israelis are anti-Palestine, and as I read it, the article is primarily critical of the Western consumerism and cultural appropriation that (inevitably) drew competition into the market, causing the ultimate decline of the Palestinian keffiyeh industry. Basically it is a lament that, in trying to show support for/solidarity with Palestine, young Westerners have inadvertently caused the decline of keffiyeh production in Palestine. Another similar critique of the Western use of the keffiyeh comes from The Guardian "The keffiyeh: Symbol of Palestinian struggle falls victim to fashion"

Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 02:52, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 October 2023

Palestinian keffiyeh is not a terrorist scarf. Fix that shitty title on google 94.249.93.253 (talk) 21:53, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

 Question: I've looked at each revision going back over a year and don't see where that would be coming from. The article does not and has not stated that the scarf is a "terrorist scarf" as far as I can see. Is there somewhere in the article I am missing where it does say this? Please note that Wikipedia is not responsible for Google Search results. Tollens (talk) 22:20, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Palestine traditional dress

You Should respect our kuffiyeh and respect yourselves by not publishing incorrect information.

Free Palestine. 🇵🇸✌️ We love the Kuffiyeh ❤️ 213.139.53.213 (talk) 22:20, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 October 2023

Want to change few words want to correct the information 176.29.249.182 (talk) 15:25, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 15:30, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 October 2023 (2)

The below part is what comes on when search for Palestinian Keffiyeh terrorists or terrorism"[10] and that offence "was by no means [their] intention".[2] This is misleading information when people search for this topic as it associates the keffiyeh with terrorism which is incorrect as it is part the Palestinian national dress. You are trying to associate the history of Palestinians with terrorism which is extremely misleading as this shouldnt be the first thing that comes out when searching for Palestine Keffieyh. 50.100.101.98 (talk) 15:43, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Can't speak to your search results as the sentence you are quoting is near the end of the article and nowhere near the "first thing that comes out" but really not sure what you are requesting or the rationale behind it. Maybe read the section more carefully.

"In 2007, the American clothing store chain Urban Outfitters stopped selling keffiyehs (sold under the name of "anti-war scarves")[2] after facing criticism from "a pro-Israel activist ... [who] complained about the items".[10] The company stated they had not intended "to imply any sympathy for or support of terrorists or terrorism"[10] and that offence "was by no means [their] intention".[2]"

All we are noting is that a clothing store stopped selling these clothing items and we quote their statement. Not sure what you are complaining about Cannolis (talk) 15:53, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 October 2023

• Remove the below paragraph. Google search is returning this article when you search for “What do terrorists wear?” - Showing the the Kiffiyeh is associated with terrorism! This is discrimination.

The company stated they had not intended "to imply any sympathy for or support of terrorists or terrorism"[10] and that offence "was by no means [their] intention".[2] HH325 (talk) 12:03, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

HH325, I understand your concern, but we can't control what Google snippets spits out. We've had similar problems before; see WP:CALIPH. Edward-Woodrow • talk 15:34, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 October 2023

Palestinians are peaceful and the kuffiyeh is part of Palestinian culture, the kuffiyeh has been adapted by many in the west making it a fashion statement. 2601:42:801:C310:F912:2757:2926:702E (talk) 09:01, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Tollens (talk) 09:44, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 October 2023 (2)

Please remove under "palestinian solidarity" title the word "terrorism"/"terrorist" as you are trying to refer to an article that doesnt even have that word in it. My request is because when you search terrorism wear this is the firt result to pop up, so calculating your words carefully is essential for not misleading people or misinformation.as wikipedia works to inform people and not choose a certain narrative, so state the facts correctly without an additive narrative, if this was a blog i would understand but Wikipedia is considered a factful website. Thanks 5.90.163.99 (talk) 17:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: This is from a direct quote from this article, which is cited here. Elli (talk | contribs) 18:02, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Remove any links to terrorism

Please remove “ The company stated they had not intended "to imply any sympathy for or support of terrorists or terrorism" and that offence "was by no means [their] intention". From Palestinian solidarity because it is pulling up as terrorism and it is actually a cultural and ethnic head dress. 2600:1700:5430:E860:8F0:CC80:BF9A:2037 (talk) 20:32, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Please change it

It is NOT related to terrorism it's false information Jasq199 (talk) 23:32, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

It is NOT related to terrorism

This is a traditional scarf that has nothing to do with terrorism. Correct your information 109.239.248.40 (talk) 22:42, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

The line under the headline of the cited source is "Urban Outfitters says it didn't mean 'to imply sympathy for terror.'" The exact quote from the Urban Outfitters rep is that they did not intend "to imply any sympathy for or support of terrorists or terrorism".[3] To that end, the article is correct.

Further, be aware that the Streisand effect may deepen the link between this article and the Google search for you-know-what with every mention of it on the talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 00:12, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Not related to terrorism

The Palestinian keffaya is not related to terrorism, and the public has been asking for this to be adjusted for a while 189.204.250.148 (talk) 01:43, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

46.32.123.65

The keffiyeh is a cultural symbol and should not be associated with terrorism, searching for “what do terrorists wear should not list this page in results — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.32.123.65 (talk) 05:04, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

This has more to do with google crawler bot who references the page in the wrong section than wikipedia 184.161.104.230 (talk) 04:36, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, Wikipedia can't influence what results Google decides to show. You should try complaining to Google, maybe they'll change it. 77.16.210.22 (talk) 17:53, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Please remove the company's statement off the Wikipedia page.

By having such a statement on the website, it insinuates that the Keffiyeh is a representation of terrorism, which it isn't. Choosing a company's statement seems somewhat irrelevant, and it is an indirect way of saying they are. It is abolustely defamatory towards a symbol of the Palestinian culture. 85.53.187.231 (talk) 22:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

This beautiful piece of clothing is NOT what terrorist wear , u should be ashamed to show wrong information as a well known site 2400:ADCC:1108:6800:3969:8B46:97FF:9098 (talk) 02:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 October 2023

Remove the word “terrorist” and “terrorism”. 2607:FEA8:A460:C30:C963:E037:AA6F:1996 (talk) 03:50, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: It's part of a relevant quotation – you've provided no reason to remove it. The article does not state anywhere that the scarf is associated with terrorism. Tollens (talk) 06:09, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

False and incendiary content

I am writing to express my concern regarding the Wikipedia page dedicated to the Palestinian keffiyeh, which I believe contains false information and potentially contributes to the escalation of tensions during this sensitive time of conflict. While Wikipedia is a valuable resource for knowledge dissemination, it is crucial to ensure the accuracy and neutrality of its content. Therefore, I kindly request a thorough review of the page in question, with the possibility of its removal or revision.

My concerns about the page are as follows:

1. Inaccurate Information: The page appears to contain information that is not accurate or objective. It is crucial that Wikipedia maintains a high standard of factual accuracy and neutrality in all its articles.

2. Potential for Tension: The Palestinian keffiyeh is a symbol that holds deep cultural and political significance for many people. Misinformation or biased content about such a symbol can lead to increased tensions and misunderstandings.

3. Violation of Wikipedia Policies: Wikipedia has established policies and guidelines to ensure the quality and neutrality of its content. This page should be reviewed for violation of these policies, and potentially removed.

I urge the Wikipedia community to conduct a thorough review of the Palestinian keffiyeh page to determine whether it meets Wikipedia's content standards and guidelines. If the page is found to be spreading false information or promoting hate, I kindly request that appropriate actions be taken, which may include revising or removing the page.

Thank you for your commitment to maintaining the integrity and credibility of Wikipedia as a valuable source of information. I trust that you will give due consideration to this request and take any necessary steps to address the concerns raised. HawariMumin (talk) 05:44, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Please write talk page comments yourself rather than using an AI tool. Tollens (talk) 06:14, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

The Urban Outfitters quote and comparing it to what's in other news sources

So, noticing which publication we're citing, I went searching for other sources about the Urban Outfitters issue, to see who else covered it and what they said. I found this 2007 article from the New York Times.

On the one hand, the story says this about pulling the garment: "Its Web site posted this explanation: 'Due to the sensitive nature of this item, we will no longer offer it for sale. We apologize if we offended anyone, this was by no means our intention.' A spokeswoman for the store, which has 95 branches nationwide, declined to comment further."

On the other hand, the article also includes this: "Many in the Jewish community, in particular, object to people wearing the scarf as a fashion statement. 'Because there are people who wear the kaffiyeh as a sign of solidarity with Palestinians, some people view it as an endorsement of terrorism,' said Mik Moore, chairman of the board of directors for the Jewish Student Press Service, an independent nonprofit organization." It also said this in describing what led to UO pulling the item: "A blogger named Mobius, posting Jan. 16 on Jewschool, a Jewish blog that targets a young audience, blasted Urban Outfitters for selling kaffiyehs. Taking issue with the retailer’s decision to label the item an 'anti-war woven scarf,' Mobius posted pictures of terrorists adorned in kaffiyehs."

So, even if we change the UO quote, there is still sourced material—and from the New York Times, a solidly-reliable source—to provide a link between the keffiyeh and terrorism in the perception of at least the Jewish community. —C.Fred (talk) 11:42, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

"Because there are people who wear the kaffiyeh as a sign of solidarity with Palestinians, some people view it as an endorsement of terrorism" ... hmm, those "some people" would be called racists. I'm not sure we should be repeating statements that basically pander to racist tropes unless exceptionally due via multiple WP:RSP. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:29, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 October 2023

This information is totally unacceptable. It is highlighting the whole Arabs over 1.5 Billion humans to be terrorists. This face cover was never meant or intended to be a symbol of terrorism. People can be dressing suites and be war criminals and terrorists. People can wear army outfits and be terrorists. Koufeya is a traditional head and face cover used in the Middle Eastern states even in Turkey, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Yemen, Oman, as part of the traditional outfit that helps to protect users from direst sunlight and sand storms difficulty to breath, beside it is useful for people doing outdoor activities as farmers, shepherds, labor, builders, safari adventures, and variety of direct sunlight activities. Also used to keep the head, ears, and neck warm during cold time in winter. Also North African states and tribes of Egypt, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Sudan, and other African countries use the Koufeya for out door activities and perfect preventative measures during sand storms. So this title as Palestinian terrorist style is highly disturbing and an unethical and deceiving information. Please correct your information as it is destroying the quality of information shared on Wikipedia 172.56.74.122 (talk) 00:18, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: I'd recommend reading the article rather than making a request to remove information which isn't present within it. If I am correct in assuming this relates to Google Search results, we cannot control the fact that Google is misrepresenting the content of the article because Wikipedia is not Google. Tollens (talk) 03:21, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

1936

Any pictures of people wearing the keffiyeh from the 1936 revolt? Makeandtoss (talk) 10:02, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Duplication

Section Keffiyeh#Palestinian national symbol duplicates Palestinian keffiyeh. Thus, the former should be merged in the latter. A summary could be left behind, in summary style. fgnievinski (talk) 02:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I think this article should be merged with the main Keffiyeh article. as this article describes the same pieace of clothing but is only referencing its significance in Palestinian culture, it does not need its own article and should be part of the main article. Alitheboss55 (talk) 19:06, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 May 2024

The actual word ‘keffiyeh’ has its origins in the ‘Kufa’ area of Iraq and means “from the city of Kufa. The keffiyeh originated in iraq, amongst Bedouins as a practical and protective covering for the head and face, especially in the arid desert climate in which they have traditionally lived. The word is also derived from the Iraqi city of Kufa, where it is also believed that the headdress was first used in the 7th century. Over the years it spread across the Middle East with each country proudly wearing a pattern and style distinct to their region.

Traditionally this squared scarf is seen in Red and Black. The red keffiyeh is native to many areas in the Southern Arabian Peninsula, and remains a popular cultural symbol in Jordan, Iraq and the Gulf regions. It serves both practical and symbolic purposes – and was historically worn by bedouins as it represents the colours of the red Arabian deserts and black.

The keffiyeh gained popularity amongst Palestinians and protests during the British Mandate of Palestine and especially during the 1936-1939 Arab Revolt. It was wrapped around the face by the rebels to hide their identity to avoid arrest. This caused the British authorities to ban the keffiyeh. Banning yet another form of Palestinian identity did not take over well with its population, so as an act of resistance all Palestinians started wearing it to make it harder to identify the rebels from the general population.

The keffiyeh as a symbol of Palestinian solidarity was cemented in the 1960s. Former President of Palestine Yasser Arafat became an icon with his distinct style of wearing the scarf in every public appearance. His keffiyeh was always carefully positioned on his head, with the longer end of the fabric placed over his right shoulder – it was laid out to resemble a map of pre -1948 Palestine. In the 1970s, iconic photographs of Leila Khaled, member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), showed her wearing the keffiyeh in a headscarf style, marking the rise in popularity of the scarf among Palestinian women as a symbol of unity.

Echoing the solidarity of The Arab Revolt, the keffiyeh was worn as a sign of allegiance again during the First Intifada (1987) and Second Intifada (2000). Palestinian youth would wear the scarf around their neck, a shift largely influenced by the fact that a full face covering made for an easy target for Zionist soldiers.Today the Keffiyeh continues to be worn to show solidarity with the Palestinian cause in the West and neighbouring Middle Eastern countries.

ref: https://kuvrd.ca/blogs/blog/the-history-and-evolution-of-the-keffiyeh Meryem Al Fatly (talk) 10:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Note that blogs are generally not reliable sources. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:53, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

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change "Traditionally worn by Palestinian farmers, during the Ottoman period the keffiyeh signalled that the wearer was rural, in contrast to the tarboosh worn by the urban classes.[1] Early Jewish migrants to Mandatory Palestine adopted the keffiyeh because they saw it as part of the authentic local lifestyle." to "The keffiyeh originated in Iraq, in the city of "Kufa", which is also where the name Keffiya, or, Kufiya originated from. It was traditionally worn by bedouins and farmers. It was eventually also adapted by more arabs, including palestinian farmers. During the Ottoman period the keffiyeh signalled that the wearer was rural, in contrast to the tarboosh worn by the urban classes.[1] Early Jewish migrants to Mandatory Palestine adopted the keffiyeh because they saw it as part of the authentic local lifestyle." Meryem Al Fatly (talk) 10:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Added context to Australian section

• In the Victorian Parliament, Greens MP Gabrielle De Vietri, had been wearing a keffiyeh for the last several months. After a complaint from Liberal Deputy Leader of the Opposition David Southwick, she was instructed to remove it.
• Currently it reads as though this is the first time the MP had worn the keffiyeh when she had worn it for several months
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BlueMountainPanther (talk) 15:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

References

 Done Liu1126 (talk) 01:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

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"This was unusual, as the keffiyeh is associated with Arab masculinity, and many believe this to be something of a fashion statement by Khaled, denoting her equality with men in the Palestinian armed."

I suggest changing "Palestinian armed." to "Palestinian armed resistance." Orfoforfe (talk) 17:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

 Partly done: Changed the language to just "Palestinian resistance" – macaddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 13:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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The reference to "black and white" should be deleted where it states "The black and white keffiyeh worn by Palestinian men of any rank, became a symbol of Palestinian nationalism during the Arab Revolt of the 1930s", as the source does not state the keffiyeh was black and white at this time. The general Wikipedia page on the Keffiyeh says the colour of the keffiyeh worn in the 1930s Arab Revolt was white. It is also supported by this source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/11/keffiyeh-scarf-fashion-history-palestine. The black and white keffiyeh was introduced later, as discussed in the other Wikipedia page on the Keffiyeh and other sources like the one provided above. 101.187.9.149 (talk) 01:02, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 03:30, 4 August 2024 (UTC)