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UNDUE Directors & Governance

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A look through 20 of the biggest companies I know, in 6 sectors, indicated only Amazon's vastly longer article included them.

In my experience, only smaller articles contain them, in a bulking up method.

I'm at a bit of a loss why anyone visiting an article for a general overview would need to know all the board of directors, for example.

Currently, there is a significant WP:UNDUE on the importance and coverage of both groups. Can anyone explain why they should be included for the PRA given the general decision not to include them elsewhere? Nosebagbear (talk) 15:56, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

October 2023

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Hello, my name is Noah and I work for PRA Group. We have recently learned about Wikipedia's community guidelines and COI policy and would like to commit ourselves to contributing to this online community by providing information to the world! We are a global company and there is discussion about our brand online everyday, and this Wikipedia article serves as a common landing spot for users searching for information about the company. Is there an editor who might be interested in helping us add accurate, fact-based information to this article. I can provide many sources that would be useful to visitors doing their research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PRAGroupNoah (talkcontribs) 16:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Asked and answered at Wikipedia:Teahouse. David notMD (talk) 17:57, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PRAGroupNoah, you should make formal edit requests here on this talk page, accompanied by references to reliable sources that verify your proposed changes. Keep each request succinct. Be aware that promotional content is not permitted. Cullen328 (talk) 18:18, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changes in Leadership

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  • Would something like this ⤵ be better?

"PRA Group began as Portfolio Recovery Associates, LLC in March 1996, when it was co-founded by Steve Fredrickson (current chairman of PRA Group’s board of directors and former President & CEO) and Kevin Stevenson (former President & CEO). Two months after forming the company in a small, Norfolk, Virginia office with four total staff members, they made their first debt purchase in May of 1996. Eventually, Portfolio Recovery Associates, LLC’s name was changed to Portfolio Recovery Associates, Inc. and later to PRA Group, Inc. in October 2014. The brand name, PRA Group, along with the design of its corporate logo were trademarked in that same year. On March 27, 2023, Vikram Atal was named PRA Group president and CEO. Atal is a longtime PRA Group board member and industry executive. During Atal's 27-year career at Citigroup, he led the North America card franchise [1], with 30,000 employees and 60 million customers, to record results amidst a changing regulatory landscape.":

  • The company has a new CEO, Vikram Atal, which has been a news subject in recent months. Atal came from Citi.:

PRAGroupNoah (talk) 18:22, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From  Spintendo : "Not done: A majority of the requested changes are currently written in a promotional tone. Please review WP:Neutral point of view and ensure you follow this before submitting any edit requests. Additionally, certain elements of the request which were not promotional — such as the claims involving the additions of various individuals to positions within the company — were unclear in the request because it was not indicated where in the existing text these changes ought to be placed. Regards, Spintendo 18:46, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]"[reply]

Would something like this be more ideal?
"PRA Group began as Portfolio Recovery Associates, LLC in March 1996, when it was co-founded by Steve Fredrickson (current chairman of PRA Group’s board of directors and former President & CEO) and Kevin Stevenson (former President & CEO). Two months after forming the company in a small, Norfolk, Virginia office with four total staff members, they made their first debt purchase in May of 1996. Eventually, Portfolio Recovery Associates, LLC’s name was changed to Portfolio Recovery Associates, Inc. and later to PRA Group, Inc. in October 2014. The brand name, PRA Group, along with the design of its corporate logo were trademarked in that same year. On March 27, 2023, Vikram Atal was named PRA Group president and CEO. Atal is a longtime PRA Group board member and industry executive. During Atal's 27-year career at Citigroup, he led the North America card franchise [citation], with 30,000 employees and 60 million customers, to record results amidst a changing regulatory landscape."
https://www.streetofwalls.com/articles/investment-banking/learn-the-basics/citigroup/ PRAGroupNoah (talk) 17:50, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The NPOV problem is the last sentence. The Blue Rider 19:39, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that tip, Blue Rider! I was under the impression that my version of the paragraph wouldn't be kept in large part due to my COI. But that last portion of the last sentence, starting with ", to record results..." can be chopped off. PRAGroupNoah (talk) 18:06, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

August 2024

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Hello, my name is Matty and I work for PRA Group in Noah's previous role. I am here to provide any information needed to get this page up to date and resolve any other issues this article has that I could help with. Please let me know what information needs to be updated and what sources may not be reliable and I'll get started! Mattymadden (talk) 13:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 2024

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Hello again! I am just following up on my previous message. One source that I see is currently out of date is our annual report, which I'm linking here: 2023 Annual Report. Please let me know if there is any other information I can provide in order to get the maintenance template removed! Mattymadden (talk) 19:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have posted on your Talk page and am copying here in case you do not see that. Hi, I see you have posted on the article's Talk page and now removed the tags from the article. As you are a paid editor, please do not edit the article directly, but request changes on the Talk page. The edit request wizard is a simple way to do this. Tacyarg (talk) 19:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have restored the tags. JSFarman (talk) 19:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Thank you both for passing this along, I've put a request in the edit wizard! Mattymadden (talk) 16:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


  • What I think should be changed: Remove the maintenance template at the top of the page.
  • Why it should be changed: As far as I can tell, all of the information included in this page is up to date. If there's any specific information that needs to be updated or further substantiated, please let me know what specifically!
  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Mattymadden (talk) 16:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 class action settlement added, sources fixed, templates removed. JSFarman (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Already done PK650 (talk) 07:47, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]