Talk:Opening lead

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I have tried to build on the good beginnings.Abtract 22:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MUD/TON, 4 highest ... what is "standard"?

I noticed that you've put down MUD as standard. Do you really think so? Why?Eljamin 13:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because it avoids confusion, because Klinger says so and because IMHO it is the modern standard way. Abtract 15:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I'd swear that "top of nothing", even if regarded conservative, remains the most popular. I play (modified) MUD myself, but I doubt it's the most common method worldwide. Duja► 15:54, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also added a note about honorless long suits; I doubt it's common to lead low, esp. against suit contracts. I'm open to persuasion on that, though. (Sources...) Duja► 16:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How weird I wrote querying that same point but you beat me to it .... I agree. However I still prefer (as does Klinger) MUD for 3 card suits unless you have documented (eg reasons for believing TON is more standard?Abtract 16:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like yr changes I have just tweaked them a little.Abtract 16:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ACBL convention card has the "TON" as the default, and you have to specially indicate if you lead MUD or low. Not really a reliable proof, but I think it shows what's the "standard" in the US. I'm not American-centric, of course, but they do constitute a pretty large portion of worldwide portion. I'm not sure about Europe-wide. Duja► 16:33, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FMI what is modified MUD?Abtract 16:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We don't lead MUD from partner's suit; if I had supported it, I'd lead the top (denying the honor), otherwise, low (denying the doubleton). Duja► 16:33, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]