Talk:On the Media
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[edit]Are the references currently in the article sufficient? BS24 (talk) 21:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
There are zero third party sources in this article and there's hardly anything on the internet about this show. It's an obscure radio program from what I can tell. BS24 (talk) 15:30, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
- OTM is a nationwide NPR broadcast produced by one of the largest public radio stations in the country. Both hosts have their own wikipedia pages (see Bob Garfield, Brooke Gladstone). The show won a Peabody award in 2004. I fixed the link to the 2004 Peabody awards. So the page again has a third party source. I have addressed your concerns so I am taking down the tag. M stone (talk) 12:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'll add a references needed template then. BS24 (talk) 00:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'll direct you to the 5 references listed at the bottom of the page. Not sure how you missed them. I have addressed your concerns so I am taking down the tag. M stone (talk) 04:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Five references are not enough. If we can't have a template at the top then I'll tag every unsourced piece of information. Add refs, put a template, or keep the tags. Make your choice. BS24 (talk) 13:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Please try to remain civil here, and don't drop ultimatums on other editors. This is a Peabody award winning radio show that is broadcast nationally in the US, and has existed for 15 years. As a result, I don't think notability is a big problem. You've only been editing Wikipedia since January, this article has been here for 5 years. I think maybe you need to take a breath and work on something else for a bit. --Krelnik (talk) 13:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Incidentially, "hardly anything on the internet about this show"? When I Google NPR "on the media" (note the quotes to narrow the scope) I get 308,000 hits! --Krelnik (talk) 13:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- If you actually look through the results you will see that there is hardly anything on the show itself. The results are just from On the Media showing up somewhere on the page. I am not trying to be disruptive. There are simply not enough references. Please add more third party reliable references and I will shut up. Until then, please do not remove the template. BS24 (talk) 18:32, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I beg to differ. If you use Google carefully, you can find plenty of stuff not on first party sites. Here's 600 links from Google News with first-party sites removed. Use the links at the top to switch that search to the web and you around 100,000 results. Likewise in Google Books, you will also find 384 results. One of those is a book from 4 years ago that has an entire chapter on the program and its hosts, I've added that one to the article as footnote 5. It could probably be cited in several more places in the article, there's a preview in Google Books for someone interested in checking details. Please make an effort to improve the article before tagging it. Incidentally, given your recent editing history and the subject of one feature of OTM's Sept. 3 program, I find your comment "obscure radio program from what I can tell" to either be a tad disingenuous or downright ironic. --Krelnik (talk) 19:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- These tags are very disruptive and inaccurate. This is a well written and well referenced page. Please do not add any more tags without discussing on the talk page first. The talk page is designed for discussing differences in opinion. M stone (talk) 20:32, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I beg to differ. If you use Google carefully, you can find plenty of stuff not on first party sites. Here's 600 links from Google News with first-party sites removed. Use the links at the top to switch that search to the web and you around 100,000 results. Likewise in Google Books, you will also find 384 results. One of those is a book from 4 years ago that has an entire chapter on the program and its hosts, I've added that one to the article as footnote 5. It could probably be cited in several more places in the article, there's a preview in Google Books for someone interested in checking details. Please make an effort to improve the article before tagging it. Incidentally, given your recent editing history and the subject of one feature of OTM's Sept. 3 program, I find your comment "obscure radio program from what I can tell" to either be a tad disingenuous or downright ironic. --Krelnik (talk) 19:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- If you actually look through the results you will see that there is hardly anything on the show itself. The results are just from On the Media showing up somewhere on the page. I am not trying to be disruptive. There are simply not enough references. Please add more third party reliable references and I will shut up. Until then, please do not remove the template. BS24 (talk) 18:32, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Incidentially, "hardly anything on the internet about this show"? When I Google NPR "on the media" (note the quotes to narrow the scope) I get 308,000 hits! --Krelnik (talk) 13:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Please try to remain civil here, and don't drop ultimatums on other editors. This is a Peabody award winning radio show that is broadcast nationally in the US, and has existed for 15 years. As a result, I don't think notability is a big problem. You've only been editing Wikipedia since January, this article has been here for 5 years. I think maybe you need to take a breath and work on something else for a bit. --Krelnik (talk) 13:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Five references are not enough. If we can't have a template at the top then I'll tag every unsourced piece of information. Add refs, put a template, or keep the tags. Make your choice. BS24 (talk) 13:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'll direct you to the 5 references listed at the bottom of the page. Not sure how you missed them. I have addressed your concerns so I am taking down the tag. M stone (talk) 04:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'll add a references needed template then. BS24 (talk) 00:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- RfC comment. I came here from the RfC notice, and I have not previously edited the page. If the question is whether there is adequate sourcing to satisfy notability, I would say yes. The show has won significant awards, which are sourced, and the people who are on the show have blue-linked biography pages. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:57, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
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