Talk:Novokuznetsk

Novokuznetsk view

Hi! I want to add to article this collage. What is you opinion?.Marina kope (talk) 21:52, 18 November 2015 (UTC) i corrected this Marina kope (talk) 06:04, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

from upper left: Novokuznetsk planetarium, The Station Novokuznetsk, Novokuznetsk drama theatre, Spaso-Preobrazhensky Cathedral, The Cathedral Of The Nativity Of Christ, Kuznetsk fortress, The square of a name of N. S. Ermakova, Siberian State Industrial University, Kuzbass state pedagogical Academy, Kuzbass Institute of law, Novokuznetsk Iron and Steel Plant, str. Pavlovsky, The intersection of the Avenue of Metallurgists - street Ordzhonikidze

Having a collage in general is not a bad idea. But it should not be linking to the articles in the Russian Wikipedia (red links or no links at all would be fine), and I can't help but wonder why the cathedral has to be there. It's a not particularly remarkable new construction; surely there are other landmarks in Novokuznetsk which are more exciting, historic, and representative of the city life? If not, at least stick it to the bottom left corner—it's current position makes it look like it's the most important thing the city has (which would be sad).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 19, 2015; 14:57 (UTC)

• Ёжики, спасибо за замечания. Мы продолжим дальше работу над этим коллажем, см. ru:Обсуждение:Новокузнецк#Коллаж. Текущая версия меня тоже не устраивает.
• Меня однако смутило, что Вы не приветствуете простановку ссылок на русские статьи и согласны на красные ссылки. Чтобы нас обоих устроило решение, нет ли в Английской Википедии шаблона, аналогичного этому: ru:Шаблон:Не переведено 5? Спасибо! -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 04:48, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Not including interwiki links is not strictly speaking my personal choice. The template you are referring to matches our {{Interlanguage link}} (soon to be merged into {{Interlanguage link multi}}), but its use is not encouraged in highly-visible places such as infoboxes or article ledes. It's kind of understandable, too—the majority of our readers will have no ability to get even a vague idea of what the Russian article is about. But from your side of the fence, it probably works out a bit better (more Russian people know at least some English than vice versa). By the way, we do have a stub for the Novokuznetsk Iron and Steel Plant, so that's one less problem :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 20, 2015; 14:30 (UTC)
    • Thank you very much! And thank you for the link for the plant! -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 14:50, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
      • Sure, no problem. Please don't hesitate to post here when the collage is ready. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 20, 2015; 15:13 (UTC)

Dear editors, if you are not disappointed with this collage, then I will be happy to add it to the infobox of the city. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 19:30, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

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Name Shor langauge

TastyPoutine, Why you deleted name of city in Shor language? You wrote "You’re looking to relitigate the discussion on Talk: Tomsk on this page" but Tomsk city is in other region of Russia unrelated to Kemerovo Oblast or Novokuznetsk. (Shor: Aba-Tura) Shor are native people in Novokuznetsk (and all Kemerovo Oblast). You can read about it on official web-site of Administration of the Kemerovo Oblast https://ako.ru/oblast/obshchaya-informatsiya/indigenous-population.php

According to this official site, there are only 2 indigenous peoples in the Kemerovo Kemerovo Oblast: the Shors and the Bachat Teleuts, which are sometimes referred to as the Shorts subethnos. Sebirkhan (talk) 21:41, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

You are perfectly well aware of what I meant about relitigating the same discussion. Read what I wrote there. TastyPoutine ^{talk (if you dare)} 22:02, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Can you give objective reasons why the name must not be present in Shor? I, in turn, provided the official website of the Oblast, I think it has at least some significance. Sebirkhan (talk) 00:45, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Did you read what I wrote? TastyPoutine ^{talk (if you dare)} 02:35, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I beg you, do not depart from the topic. Did you have a reason to delete the name? Sebirkhan (talk) 02:56, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Did you read what I wrote on Talk:Tomsk? The same reasoning applies. TastyPoutine ^{talk (if you dare)} 03:56, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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