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Good articleNothing Revealed / Everything Denied has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 9, 2021Good article nomineeListed
May 16, 2021Good topic candidatePromoted
Current status: Good article

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Nothing Revealed / Everything Denied/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 16:50, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]


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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
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I will review this soon, hopefully leading to you having the last GA required to nominate the Notes on a Conditional Form GT! --K. Peake 16:50, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review! This is the last one, so hopefully GT soon! Giacobbe talk 18:43, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

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  • Should electro be piped to electronic music or Electro (music)?
  • Pipe Matthew Healy to Matty Healy under songwriter(s) and in the lead prose
  • There is a rule that everything in the lead needs to be mentioned in the body, so write out the writers and producers there
  • "The song's creation was" → "Its creation was"
  • Again, should electro be piped to electronic music or Electro (music)?
  • Remove hip hop from the groove part because this is too much detail for the lead
  • Either add sacred diagrams to what footage appears or only keep the first two and add "among others" at the end of the sentence

Background and development

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  • Quote box and first para both look good!
  • "began with a piano piece" → "came from a piano piece"
  • Wikilink breakbeat
  • Pipe loop to Loop (music)
  • Wikilink J Dilla
  • "said the song's creation was" → "said parts of the song's creation were"
  • The notes do not appear to show him mentioning artists failing to take a stance, unless I misinterpreted it?
  • "I find that a lot of people who are out there doing their thing musically, who aren’t challenging any ideas, are only made interesting through association or projection. I don’t feel like a lot of people stand by stuff." I just paraphrased the last sentence. Giacobbe talk 12:30, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • ""If you give" → ""[I]f you give" per the source

Music and lyrics

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  • Audio sample looks good!
  • Again, should electro be piped to electronic music or Electro (music)?
  • "about himself from past tracks." → "about himself from their lyrics." to be less repetitive
  • [23] should be solely at the end of the sentence
  • Pipe low-pitched to Pitch (music)
  • The quote in the last sentence is not sourced

Reception

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  • "praising its "grandeur" → "praising the "grandeur" to avoid using "it" or "the song" too close to the last instances
  • "while noting it explores" → "while noting the song explores"
  • Why is Kitty Empire mentioned as writing for The Observer when this review was clearly a piece for The Guardian?
  • "for the band." → "for the 1975."
  • "the album's "more successful" → "the album's "[m]ore successful"
  • "saying: "The 1975 are" → "saying it is an example of where "[t]he 1975 are"
  • "radio-friendly hooks."" → "radio-friendly hooks"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • Three reviews in one sentence is too much so give the musicOMH one its own sentence: "On a similar note, Ross Horton of musicOMH called it" or "called the bridge" if the source mentions that part specifically
  • "deconstruction of the band's" → "deconstruction of the 1975's"
  • Make the Pitchfork review its one sentence per my earlier comment
  • Wikilink UK Singles Chart

Music video

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  • Img looks good!
  • Remove wikilink on Music for Cars Tour
  • The release date and 11th release part are unsourced, so use [37] after the first two sentences since it backs them up
  • Why are nematodes and eels listed in a different order from the source here?
  • "it is intended to" → "the 1975 asserted that it is intended to" to attribute the quote properly

Charts

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  • Good

References

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  • Copyvio score looks decent at 35.5%
  • The only issue with the refs is that the archive tool hasn't been run on them, so make sure to do that through history
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  • Good

Final comments and verdict

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  • (CA)Giacobbe ✓ Pass now, the archives not being able to be added is not an issue since the tool often breaks and you can do this at a later date. Good luck with your GT, plus it is fine that your exam caused a delay – I'll be on here less now that I start work at McDonald's in three days! --K. Peake 18:57, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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