Talk:Nostos: The Return

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Review: March 7, 2021. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Nostos: The Return appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 February 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that all dialogue in the film Nostos: The Return is in a made-up language based on ancient Greek, Sanskrit and Latin?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 19:28, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that all dialogue in the film Nostos: The Return is in a made-up language based on ancient Greek, Sanskrit and Latin? Source: Lapeña Marchena, Óscar (2018). p. 101 "As has been indicated above, these dialogues are inspired by languages that were spoken in the ancient Mediterranean, though more precisely they are a mixture, created by the director, of words and sounds of classical Greece, with the Greek from Thessaly prevalent over the Ionian dialect. Sanskrit and Latin are also embedded in this eclectic language."
- ALT1:... that Franco Piavoli began his filmmaking career in the 1950s, but did not make a feature-length fiction film until Nostos: The Return from 1989? Source: Lapeña Marchena, Óscar (2018). p. 97 "...the first full-length fiction film by its director, Franco Piavoli ... His first short films, mostly documentaries, were in the 1950s and 1960s" (the source, although otherwise good, gives the wrong release year; see for example La Repubblica or Rivista del cinematografo for 1989)

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zinaida Vengerova

Created by Ffranc (talk). Self-nominated at 13:21, 3 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Very good entry! All neutrally written and referenced where required; new enough and long enough. AGF for sources. The first hook was enough to make me want to read the entry! Innisfree987 (talk) 18:59, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Nostos: The Return/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 01:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 01:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

The poster has various performers that should be included in the infobox per its billing block. These actors that are not included and are missing from the article, in order, are Paola Agosti, Giuseppe Marcoli, Alex Carozzo, and Mariella Fabbris.
- I added the actors to the production section and Branca De Camargo to the infobox, because her name is written above the rest on the poster. I'm reluctant to put other actors in the starring field, because they all have tiny roles.
Per the rules of the infobox template, use "{{Plainlist|" instead of "<br/>" when adding multiple entries.
- Done
The running time needs a reference per consistency with other GA-articles.
- Done
Add a comma after "preparing, filming".
- Done
"lyrical version Homer's" → "lyrical version of Homer's"
- Done

Plot

Per the rules presented at WP:FILMPLOT, I suggest doing either two things: (1) Remove "(Luigi Mezzanotte [it])" and "(Branca De Camargo)" from this section and add a cast section with all the actors in the billing block and those with important roles, or (2) add the names of each actor in this section, including the ship's crew and the various woman mentioned in the summary. Overall, I would prefer if you did the first option to have consistency with other articles.
- This could be difficult. The movie lists six actor names and a theatre group in the opening credits, but no character is named and there are only really two roles that sources comment on (as mentioned above, the rest are tiny). I might be able to figure out who play the crew etc but it would be original research. I've removed the lead actors from the plot and added their roles to the production section instead. Does that solve the problem?
With that in mind, the word count is in great condition at 424 words, passing WP:MOVIEPLOTS.

It would. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 13:36, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"his crew are missing" → "his crew is missing" or "his crew missing"
- Done
Remove the comma after "fauna of the location".
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In the note after "seduce her", add a comma after Circe.
- Done

Themes and analysis

Add commas after "knowledge", "birthright", "homeland, childhood", "whereas", "Sanskrit", "wide shots", "animals", and "Darwinism".
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Remove the commas after "war and violence", "approach to language", and "human communication".
- Done
"had a both" → "had both a" or "having both a"
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"embryotic" → "embryonic"
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"According the" → "According to the"
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Production

Add commas after "painting", "Brescia", "editor", and "Rudolf Maros".
- Done
Remove the comma after "control over the production".
- Done

Release

This section looks good.

Reception

Remove the commas after "poetic cinema" and "boring".
- Done
"wrote the film contains" → "wrote that the film contains"
- Done

References

Citations are in excellent shape.

Progress

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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@Some Dude From North Carolina: Thank you very much for the review! I've addressed your concerns, with a couple of comments above. Ffranc (talk) 09:37, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]