Talk:Nikola Pašić/Archive 1

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If he was a Walach why didn't he move to Romania but stayed in Bulgaria? I'm removing this crappolla. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.202.248.52 (talk) 08:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

He was a Walach (Romanian) descent. What kind of a question is this ? So all Bulgarians from Romania should move back? Do you remember the name of the first Bulgarian kingdom (Bulgarian- Walach kingdom)? Please, stop spreading this crappolla as you call it....i am changing it back. iadrian (talk) 08:41, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

The funny thing is when i visited this page, a couple of months ago, Nikla Pasic was of Romanian descent, now the link`s that proved that are removed and he became Bulgarian over night :). Well, all right, this is wikipedia, a encyclopedia that ANYONE can change.iadrian (talk) 08:48, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Please, provide reliable sources, he was a Vlach from Romania, or something else. Jingby (talk) 09:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

There are six sources about Pashich's Bulgarian origin and only one IT-site he was aromanian from Macedonia. We need a verification. Jingiby (talk) 11:39, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Hm official y.1900 census of Aromanians in Tetovo says 50 persons none of which Pashich. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromanians_in_the_Republic_of_Macedonia Maybe chances are Pashich was of Albanian origin? Because of the similarities Romanians could often be assimilated into the outnumbering Albanian community. Anyway as his continuing work and political involvement in both Serbia and Bulgaria he is probably of mixed Serbian Bulgarian origin, not surprising for the region really. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.180.35.232 (talk) 00:15, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

His origin and refs

Hello, I have added the 2 refs about his Aromanian origin

• [1] - As an aside, let us mention that Nikola Pašić, the Serbian Prime Minister of the period (when the Treaty of Bucharest was signed in 1913 and when Romanian schools for Aromanians were closed in 1914) was himself Aromanian[17].
• [2] - Nikola Pašić,veliki srpski državnik Nikola Pašić bio je poreklom iz poznate cincarske porodice Pasku. Precisu mu bili Cincari iz sela Rogačeva u blizini Tetova..

Moving one theory, or another in the text seems like one theory is less important than another. Since both theories are not 100% correct, it should be one next to another to preserve the neutrality of this section. Also I am not sure that Bulgarian refs can be verified and atleast one should be in English since it is English wiki.Adrian (talk) 12:22, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. Until your last addition of sources, they were 2:2. Since now, it is clear that the Bulgarian theory is the dominant one. But at least we should include the Aromanian as well since there are sources for that as well. Adrian (talk) 12:54, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

About Pašić

Nikada, kao ni danas u selu Rogačevu nije živeo nijedan jedini cincarin. Selo Rogačevo je čisto srpsko selo na padinama Šar planine.--109.245.132.186 (talk) 19:49, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

In border region between Serbia and Bulgaria on bulgarian side live people called Shopi! Bulgars are mix of blakan slavs and some other ethnicities, mostley vlachs with asiatic mongolian tartars - Volgars from river Volga. Shopi people are mix of serbs, vlachs/sarakatsani and pecheneg, they are not "bulgars".--109.245.132.186 (talk) 20:02, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

one-sided paean

I think this is a rather one-sided paean to the long-time Serbian politician. Between 1903 and 1914 Serbia was only apparently a democracy. In reality, Pasic and his colleagues lived in constant fear of the conspirators of the 1903 coup (Christopher Clark made this clear in his book The Sleepwalkers) and geared his actions largely to their wishes and Greater Serbian ideas.

The passages that speak of Austria-Hungary wanting to annex Serbia and in particular the alleged quote from Bismarck should be deleted as there is no supporting evidence. On the contrary, the Austro-Hungarian Council of Ministers made the following decision on July 19, 1914: "At the request of the Royal Hungarian Prime Minister, the joint Council of Ministers decides that the foreign powers will be informed immediately at the beginning of the war that the monarchy is not waging a war of conquest and the incorporation of the kingdom is not intended." (https://wwi.lib.byu.edu/index.php/I,_26._Minsterrat_f%C3%BCr_gemeinsame_Angelegenheiten,_19._Juli_1914) XeniaBW (talk) 20:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)