Talk:Nicola Sturgeon/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Still a stub!

The election is just around the corner guys! Any chance of expanding this, and referencing it, so that we can de-stub it? -- tan 13:09, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• I've upgraded to start following some expansion. Thunderwing 21:19, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Picture

I've uploaded a free use pic that I took. I know it's not great but it's a bit strange not having a pic of the deputy first minister in her article. GiollaUidir 13:41, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Handling of Swine 'flu outbreaks

Any thoughts on the new Swine 'flu section? When I first encountered it it was unreferenced and fairly stubby; I added a ref from the BBC confirming that Sturgeon was Health Secretary and hence reporting on the issue, but noted in my edit summary that I didn't feel the section was particularly valuable. Since then another editor has removed the section, the section has been reinstated, I've removed it, and it's been reinstated again (by the same editor who initially added it and then re-added it).

My feeling is that there's very little useful information here - sure, she's Health Secretary and hence reports on the issue, but beyond that she's not doing anything amazing - she's simply doing what numerous other similar politicians are doing. My feeling is at the moment there's nothing particularly notable about her handling of the issue, and that the section should go. Thoughts?

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:45, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

No, her handling of the crisis has seen her international profile soar. She has been reported around the world on the issue. It may not need a seperate section per se, but has the most significant thing in her career to date, she needs referenced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.6.12.212 (talk) 17:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it's "handling" I disagree with - and this could just be a complete lack of references. As far as I can see, she's reported the issue, and since Scotland had a few cases she possibly gained some international media exposure (I don't know; there were cases in New Zealand but I didn't see Kiwi Health officials on Scottish TV, and - as previously mentioned - the whole section is largely unreferenced). I'd suggest it's far too early to comment on her handling - once she does something beyond reporting then a section might be justified. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:56, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I removed it entirely because at the moment there is not alot we can say on the matter apart from the fact she is doing her job which seems pretty pointless. Perhaps in a few weeks time if the outbreak has led to a change in public opinion of her or something then it may be justified but i think its too early to tell. I notice Alan Johnsons article does not have any mention of the swine flu outbreak.

If this is really important to some people perhaps it would be better if a small section was made on her role incharge of health in Scotland, where it could say what she has done including a mention of swine flu, rather than a single sentence on its own. BritishWatcher (talk) 19:03, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Or perhaps what we should do is remove "After the SNP's victory at the 2007 Scottish Parliament Election, Sturgeon was appointed as the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing. She is supported in this role by Shona Robison MSP, the Minister for Public Health and Sport and by Alex Neil MSP, the Minister for Housing and Communities." from the Deputy leader section and place it under a new section on "In government" or something along those lines. Where her roles can be mentioned including the fact she held office during the swine flu outbreak. BritishWatcher (talk) 19:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

The latter option in particular works for me, though I'd be happy with the former provided Sturgeon's role is referenced. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 09:09, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

• I've removed the section heading, incorporating the text into the previous section ("Deputy Leader"). I'm still tempted to remove the text altogether, but I'll wait and see whether any references are forthcoming. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 16:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Depute vs Deputy

Depute is not a mispelling, it is one of several words where there is a "kilted" change (others include Convenor to Convener). The SNP's party constitution calls her their Depute Leader, so Depute it stays — Preceding unsigned comment added by DMac1 (talk • contribs) 21:00, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Mugshot

Does anybody have a better picture of NS for the lead? The existing picture is at least 10 years old and is also extremely unflattering, despite apparently being sourced from the SNP. She doesn't look anything like that today. --Ef80 (talk) 20:54, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

I suspect we'll get more stuff now she's first minister, so it should become easier to find something more recent. This is Paul (talk) 14:23, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Date of First Ministership

Sturgeon officially became first minister on the 20th of November, not the 19th. On the 19th she was the Scottish Parliament's nominee for the role, but had neither received royal assent nor been sworn in in the Court of Session, thus officially did not hold the post.

Can you find a source for that? This is Paul (talk) 23:10, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

The Scottish Government website listed Ms Sturgeon as "First Minister Designate" from her nominstion by parliament on the 19th until after she appeared before the court on the 20th. The presiding officer of the parliament also clearly addressed her as "the first minister designate" during the session on the 19th.

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2014

see here Nicola became first minister on 20th not 19th please correct 178.17.70.1 (talk) 14:31, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

 Done. Have also expanded the article to explain that she was elected on 19 November, and officially sworn in the following day. This is Paul (talk) 19:21, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

She was elected as the Nominee! Please revert

elected as the nominee? source says she was elected to first minister Cannolis (talk) 22:53, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Photo

We need an encyclopedic image which is free for the infobox. Is the current one intended as a joke? --John (talk) 19:25, 19 November 2014 (UTC)