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Winston Cup?

Why are all links to Winston Cup redirected here? Especially since there is no info prior to 2004 here. This smells bad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.51.218.38 (talk) 02:50, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Makes missing from list of manufacturers

Morgan, Renault, Citroen and Goliath also competed in NASCAR, http://www.legendsofnascar.com/index.htm MBarje (talk) 13:35, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Championship numbers

Apart from a format error in the table, the total number of championships per manufacturer somehow seems to be wrong (after doing some research). Should there be corrections? ikarus280 (talk) 02:37, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: I've done some calculations and the manufacturers' championship numbers in the table neither comply with the manufacturers' champion numbers nor with the models the champions drove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikarus280 (talk • contribs) 03:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Engine specs nonsensical

specs for seemingly the same block at the end of the page mentions fuel injection as the fuel delivery system, then goes on to mention carbeurator size. i think this should be split into two sections, one for the older carbeurated engines, and one for the newer fuel injection engines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.38.222.2 (talk) 00:17, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Manufacturer representation: Oldsmobile Cutlass

Article lists General Motors' Oldsmobile Cutlass/Cutlass Supreme being used by NASCAR from 1976-1994.

I viewed a DVD entitled "1969 & 1970 Grand National Highlights" and saw a 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass on a road course. Further on-line research showed at http://www.racing-reference.info/race/1970_Motor_Trend_500/W that Jerry Oliver raced a 1970 Oldsmobile at the 1970 Motor Trend 500 in Riverside, California, & Steve Froines raced a 1968 Oldsmobile also at that race.

At http://www.driveraverages.com/nascar_stats/driveryear.php?drv_id=3783&yr_id=1970; it lists Don Simkins racing a Cutlass at Riverside in June 1970. This link is to a picture of Don Simkin's Cutlass, #68, which he raced at Riverside according to the driveraverages link. Oldsmobile Cutlass #68 Don Simkins

Correction needs to be made that Cutlass/Cutlass Supreme cars were used by NASCAR prior to 1976. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincent Verdane (talk • contribs) 05:37, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

points scoring

How about an explanation how the points have been given over the years? Or at least a table?Anttipng (talk) 20:53, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

gen 6?

There's nothing about the Generation 6 cars. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.106.97.124 (talk) 21:20, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are all cars the same?

Is it stock car racing still? For someone who does not know about NASCAR this is a valid question. Is a NASCAR Toyota Camry the exact copy of a NASCAR Chevrolet SS under the body shell? Or is it like F1 where each team creates their own chassis? This should really be explained somewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.170.200.187 (talk) 16:38, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Chase for the Championship section

Is there a valid reason to keep the championship tables separated? The format changed several times through the years, and I don't know of a good reason to keep 2004-2013 separate from 2014 and 2015. In addition, I think title should also be changed from winners to champions because they are classified as a champion. – Nascar1996 ^{(talk • cont)} 03:35, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I merged them together. Zappa 24 Mati 03:44, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Starting lineup

Will there be 40 cars in every race this season, or was it just for Daytona? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.141.181.162 (talk) 12:56, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@64.141.181.162: There will be 40 cars per race for the entire season. Technically, NASCAR considers 36 to be a "full field" (as it's the number of chartered teams), with the maximum being 40 cars. NFL is Awesome (ZappaOMati) 18:43, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of the cup?

It's interesting that there are abundant pictures of cars and drivers, but not a single picture of an actual cup. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 17:31, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Official name has not been announced yet

Renaming this page from "Sprint" to "Monster" seems premature. Brian France made it clear during his 12/1/16 press conference that the official name has not yet been announced. So "Monster Energy Cup Series" is just a guess. Gmporr (talk) 22:14, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. And renaming it to "NASCAR Cup Series" is pointless as it will likely have to be changed again. Hooky-i-vanisher (talk) 02:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cup series cars - unique?

The last paragraph of the intro section says "Cup series cars are unique in automobile racing". This is obviously not true, since they are effectively identical to NASCAR Xfinity series cars. Beyond that, they're very similar to K&N series cars, the Camping World series "trucks", and not very different from Australian V-8 Supercars. I'm tempted to remove that sentence, and start the paragraph with "Cup Series engines are...". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.1.157.137 (talk) 23:13, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Carburetor?

Could someone who knows more about the technical side of things rewrite the reference to carburetor tuning in the Setup section? It says below in the Specifications that NASCAR uses fuel injection. I thought that carburetors were no longer part of the "innards". 47.137.181.222 (talk) 16:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 April 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved to NASCAR Cup Series. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:28, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series → NASCAR Premier Series – When seeing links to this article, even from historical articles predating the Monster sponsorship, the title is retconned to imply Monster sponsorship. This appears to me as blatant advertising. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Monster_Energy_NASCAR_Cup_Series_champions.

Some pages with links to "NASCAR Sprint Cup series" end up redirecting to "Monster cup series" which is inaccurate.

I would recommend changing the title to "NASCAR Premier Series" as the article then steps through the history of the different sponsorships. Arbitrarycomplexity (talk) 20:59, 3 April 2019 (UTC)--Relisting. B dash (talk) 00:10, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I oppose the move as the time being. MENCS is the current name of the series, and I don’t believe it’s advertising - it’s simply what it’s named. As for the whole “Sprint Cup Series” redirect debate, I think those could potentially be changed to just the Sprint Cup section of this page or the Sprint Cup section of the NASCAR Lore page. The term “premier series” is loose and never been a specific name of the series; the page should be the name of a series. And by the sounds of it the page will be moved to a title that doesn’t have a company name in it by the end of the year.

(For the record, I would also be against moving the Xfinity and Gander Truck pages.) Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 01:17, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Oppose NASCAR Premier Series is not the name of the series and nobody uses that term for it. The proposed term is a red link since it's a made up term. The series has had a title sponsor for many decades (Winston Cup Series starting in 1971). Royal broil 03:30, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Move to NASCAR Cup Series, which is unambiguous and trivially more concise. The sponsorship name is unnecessary disambiguation. Andrewa (talk) 07:30, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Move to NASCAR Cup Series. This term actually is used. Since this article covers everything from the Winston Cup Series, Nextel/Sprint Cup Series, and current sponsor, we should just use the title without the sponsorship name. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:20, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – With NASCAR Cup Series being suggested as a move target, what would the plan be for other series like NASCAR Gander Outdoors Truck Series, NASCAR Whelen All-American Series, East/NASCAR K&N Pro Series West, or even NASCAR Xfinity Series? If the Cup article is moved to a title without the sponsor, wouldn't the other series have to do the same to follow convention? This might work for, say, the Truck Series with NASCAR Truck Series, but what about something like the Xfinity Series that doesn't have a defining moniker? Zappa⚡Matic 20:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Nope. That misses the point completely. There's no proposal for a convention to omit all sponsor names. But yes, it would be worth looking at these other series to see whether the article name can be improved in line with the article naming policy, which often but not always results in removal of sponsor names. See also wp:official names which gives a rationale for some relevant provisions of the policy. Andrewa (talk) 23:14, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This is my first attempt at doing anything with Wiki. I've never talked or edited before.

Here's my input. I an certain that Nascar was running in the rain during the 1998 or 1997 season.

I remember watching the west coast race from Sonoma and there was a segment detailing the rain tires and wipers installed for the road race. The weather that day was variable and the cars all made stops to mount the rain tires. The cars seemed to perform well and IIRC there were no massive crashes.

I don't recall the Watkins Glen race of those years requiring rain tires. The weather was dry and fine. It was mentioned in the special segment I recall something about rain tires not being used on the superspeedways, just the road courses. They said at superspeedways it would be too dangerous using rain tires on 200 mph tracks.

I hope someone can verify what I've said as it bugs me whenever I see rain tires mentioned and the first use date in the 2000's. I know with 100% certainty that rain tires and wipers were Nascar approved and used during the 1997 or 1998 season.

thanks Kateschredder (talk) 08:22, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cup Tracks

I think that there needs to be an upgraded map because this map has Chicagoland Speedway and Kentucky Speedway which are not included in the actual 2022 NASCAR Cup season. An upgraded map with the new tracks of World Wide Technology Raceway, Nashville Superspeedway, Circuit of the Americas and Road America needs to be added. Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, I think it shouldn't be there because it's a non-points race.

Rodrigo1198 (talk) 23:58, 07 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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