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The Federal member for Dunkley, Bruce Billson (Liberal), has recently taken it upon himself to push for the missing link of the freeway to be built between Frankston to the Mooroduc Highway. He claims that Eastlink will add too much traffic to the Frankston Freeway and the terminus at McMahons Road. I think he's correct, although VicRoads claim this won't happen. I hope he gets it, but I suspect Canberra won't contribute as it's not a road of national importance, and I suspect it's just a vehicle to bash the state government with and to promote himself. I hope I'm wrong. --Commking 00:10, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any traffic increase at that intersection will probably be fairly gradual due to parts of Eastlink being opened up as they are completed and ready to use, rather than the entire Eastlink tollway being opened all at once, of course assuming the Frankston section isn't the final section to be completed. Then there is the issue of it being a tollway, which will tend to limit traffic initially as drivers get used to the idea of paying for each trip. Some drivers may resent paying a toll, and continue using the older non-tolled routes. ozzmosis 17:51, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The plan is for Eastlink to open in one hit, not by stages. Citylink is a tollway, but is now a car park! How long do you think this "initial" period of light traffic is going to last? --Commking 18:22, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I quote the following from a newspaper article: ConnectEast, which will run the toll road, says it will not open in stages. Motorists will not drive on any part of the road until every centimetre is completed. [1] --Commking 01:32, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, well that's unfortunate. Last I heard, they were opening it in stages. Bit strange.

I suspect the initial period of light traffic won't give VicRoads sufficient time to do much with regards to diverting both freeway and tollway traffic away from Cranbourne Rd, but as with anything, we shall see! :) ozzmosis 05:44, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We certainly shall - My prediction, for what it's worth, is that this will NOT be the first freeway Melbourne has had that won't result in chronic congestion! --Commking 22:44, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Something just occured to me - Vicroads has been saying there will be no extra congestion at the terminus of the freeway (Cranbourne Road and McMahons Road) once EastLink is open. Everyone of course knows that this is hogwash. I now think Vicroads are correct. The congestion won't be on this intersection - it's going to be on the Mornington Peninsula Freeway, as traffic backs up for many kilometres after coming off Eastlink, worse than it is now. No congestion at that intersection at all! Very slimy of Vicroads and the government really. Or am I just being cynical? --Commking 07:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wells Road

I wonder if it is worth mentioning Wells Road in the article.

Prior to the freeway from Springvale Rd, Wells Rd was a major road, even being signed as Metro route 11 (which continued from Springvale Rd into Wells) upon introduction of the Metro route system in 1966. Wells Rd of old followed its current course, the exception being where is is "broken" by the Thompson Rd interchange (previously Thompson Rd ended at Wells Rd and did not meet McLeod Rd). The Frankston Freeway also replaced a large section of Wells Rd and what was known as the Wells Rd Bypass... I believe the bypass was the "freeway" at first until more of it was completed.

How the road looked in 1966 can be seen at Melway's Web site. - Bricks J. Winzer 15:13, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The north side of Wells Road (north of Thames Promenade) is still a major road. I'm not sure if any of that belongs in the freeway article though, aside from perhaps a short paragraph on why the freeway was built. I suspect it was due to a lot more than congestion on Wells Road beforehand. --ozzmosis 07:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Back in the day, Wells Road did the same job the freeway does now. It was much more important than it is now. Go for it! --Commking 22:48, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I remember as a kid travelling between Frankston and Melbourne in the mid-late 70's you would go off the Freeway at Seaford Rd and follow Wells Rd and then the freeway extended to somewhere just before Thompson Rd, I think near the BMX track where EastLink is now and then by about 1981/2 it extended to Springvale Rd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispain (talk • contribs) 11:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conversion to M11

Just to further confirm the freeway will change from metro 11 to M11, here is a pic snapped by someone from ozroads: http://mrv.ozroads.com.au/misc/IMG_3634.jpg. --Lakeyboy (talk) 10:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Converted back to 11 just before EastLink opened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispain (talk • contribs) 11:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just because there were 1 or 2 M11 signs doesn't mean the route number was 'officially' changed (to M11) in the first place. --122.107.178.246 (talk) 01:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As mentioned in the text, M11 signs are back at the Springvale road intersection, i can't believe they are correct though since they refer to the Frankston freeway, not the MPF. The Frankston freeway itself is more likely to become an extension of M3 when Peninsula link takes over the M11 anyway.Leonkernan (talk) 00:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merging with Peninsula Link

The merge would indicate the continuous link between the two sections of MP Freeway and Peninsula Link. Peninsula Link would have a sub-content on the MP Freeway page (if agreed upon). --Rom rulz424 (talk) 01:59, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, why there are two different articles for essentially one continuous road is a little confusing. Having the Peninsula Link article as a sub-section of the Mornington Peninsula Freeway article tidies a lot up. Lordstorm (talk) 06:22, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of Construction

Missing: although the existence of the extension from Jetty Rd to Boneo Rd Rosebud is mentioned elsewhere in the article, no date is given for when that section of road opened and is thus left out of the timeline. I can remember when the freeway used to end at Jetty Rd at a T-intersection but that was decades ago. Does anyone know when the single-lane two-way was built? Wokepedian (talk) 06:40, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Map of the road

Shouldn't the map of the road include Peninsula Link as it is part of the freeway AND the Peninsula Link Article has been merged to this one? Crazy-Dog4110 (talk) 23:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]