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Page needs a section on processing.

There no mention in this article about processing, or whether there is a whole and a polished kind available. In the German Wikipedia, there is an article on Braunhirse or "Brown Millet" which is whole millet, not polished, just as whole wheat is not polished. Strangely there is no link to the German article on Braunhirse in English or in any other language.Contraverse (talk) 20:16, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Collect information from your home and neighbouring families about millat consumption and analyse it in table? 2409:4070:4D1B:D380:0:0:A90A:F05 (talk) 13:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, but Wikipedia's rules on Original Research forbid such an approach. If you want to do that, you can easily write a blog or social media post about it on other websites. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cladistic diagram overhaul

I'm not sure of the source for the information for the diagram but I've done some modification but do not have a good source. I suspect we want a recent good survey article (or a respected textbook). Erp (talk) 03:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The cladogram, as it was, was reliably sourced as cited just above it in the text. The additions are uncited since you have not used that source. Worse, the tree is now assembled from more than one source, ie it was better before, so you are right that it now needs attention: reversion or rework from a fresh source. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On what page was the previous version? I could not find it in the source. Erp (talk) 04:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How odd. Well, it can't stay as it is either way. I think we need to start over, with one external (grasses) phylogeny diagram not unlike the old one, and one internal (millets) diagram not unlike your additions, each from known sources. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a ref for the PACMAD clade. The existing source has a tree that covers the BOP clade. I think that's fine as the two are clearly distinct, i.e. there's no editorial invention or merging. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:28, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I note Soreng et al. 2015 (Soreng, Robert J.; Peterson, Paul M.; Romaschenko, Konstantin; Davidse, Gerrit; Zuloaga, Fernando O.; Judziewicz, Emmet J.; Filgueiras, Tarciso S.; Davis, Jerrold I.; Morrone, Osvaldo (2015). "A worldwide phylogenetic classification of the Poaceae (Gramineae)". Journal of Systematics and Evolution. 53 (2): 117–137. doi:10.1111/jse.12150. ISSN 1674-4918. Retrieved 2025-01-03.) has a useful source chart at figure 1. Also Morrone et al. 2012 (Morrone, Osvaldo; Aagesen, Lone; Scataglini, Maria A.; Salariato, Diego L.; Denham, Silvia S.; Chemisquy, Maria A.; Sede, Silvana M.; Giussani, Liliana M.; Kellogg, Elizabeth A.; Zuloaga, Fernando O. (2012). "Phylogeny of the Paniceae (Poaceae: Panicoideae): integrating plastid DNA sequences and morphology into a new classification". Cladistics. 28 (4): 333–356. doi:10.1111/j.1096-0031.2011.00384.x. ISSN 0748-3007. Retrieved 2025-01-03.) figure 1 for within Paniceae (and cited by the former). The former has been cited quite often (398 times) so should be fairly well accepted. Erp (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added these for the tribes. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is an updated version of Soreng et al. published in 2022: doi:10.1111/jse.12847. At some point I'd like to replace Wikipedia references to Soreng 2015 with Soreng 2022 (while updating articles to reflect any differences betweeen the 2015 and 2022 papers), but it is not something I have gotten around to doing yet. Plantdrew (talk) 16:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Updated. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page needs a section on processing.

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Cladistic diagram overhaul