Talk:Malabar Coast

Merger proposal

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The result of this discussion was merge. Alarichall (talk) 20:40, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

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I propose that Malabar region be merged into Malabar Coast. They seem to be discussing the same subject, the common name for which I think is Malabar Coast. Batternut (talk) 12:57, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

• Decline: Malabar coast is a geographic feature (includes areas in Karnataka and Kerala). While Malabar region, is a social and administrative region exclusively in Kerala, precursor to which was the the British Malabar District, before which it was the lands which constituted the kingdom of Zamorin of Calicut which he lost to Tipu Sultan and later he to the British. Both are related, but not same. Crawford88 (talk) 05:02, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

1. I see no evidence of "Malabar region" having any administrative role, Kerala#Subdivisions does not mention it.
2. Malabar coast is not a geographic feature - what makes this piece of coast 'Malabar' is the people, the society that lives/lived there.
3. The Zamorin of Calicut article talk about the Malabar Coast more than anything, (as does the Malabar region article itself!) Batternut (talk) 15:29, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

1. The linked part is called district i.e. the smallest administration unit with a central government officer overseer. Malabar region, as explained in the article is a larger area consisting of 4-5 districts. See http://www.keralatourism.org/malabar/
2. Coast is a geographic feature. India has two coast lines on ether side . Western shore is divided into Konkan and Malabar coasts. Malabar region, on the other hand is exclusively in Kerala and is a cultural entity. Crawford88 (talk) 05:14, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

I am reviving Batternut's proposal to merge Malabar Coast into Malabar Region (or the other way round -- I don't mind). Malabar Coast is quite short but fairly well referenced; Malabar Region is more developed in scope but has no references; and the two articles largely overlap in scope and content. I note Crawford88's argument above that 'coast' is geographical and 'region' is political/social, but (a) I see no evidence that there is an official area called 'Malabar region' (by contrast with Malabar District) and (b) it's clear that in practice 'Malabar Coast' is used not simply to talk about the geographical feature of the shoreline, but the associated region and its societies. The articles are covering the same topic, and Malabar Region uses the term 'Malabar Coast' as a synonym for 'Malabar Region'. Alarichall (talk) 10:47, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

• PS. Another possibility for the target name would just be Malabar (Indian region) or something like that: the name we're really dealing with here is 'Malabar' and the rest of the title is actually there to distinguish the article from articles about other Malabars. Alarichall (talk) 11:01, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
  • I too am less bothered about the article name than the overlap of the current situation. While "Malabar Coast" has been referred to much more in literature than "Malabar region", perhaps just "Malabar" with suitable parenthetic disambiguation would be more widely accepted. Batternut (talk) 11:12, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in Malabar Coast

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Malabar Coast's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Logan":

• From Ramanattukara: Logan, William (2010). Malabar Manual (Volume-I). New Delhi: Asian Educational Services. pp. 631–666. ISBN 9788120604476.
• From Ayudha Puja: Logan, William (2000). Malabar manual. Asian Educational Services. p. 162. ISBN 978-81-206-0446-9. Retrieved 2009-09-18. {{cite book}}: |work= ignored (help)
• From Mysore's campaigns against the states of Malabar (1757): Logan, William (2006). Malabar Manual, Mathrubhumi Books, Calicut. ISBN 978-81-8264-046-7.
• From Kingdom of Valluvanad: Logan, William (1887). Malabar Manual. Madras: PRINTED BY R. HILL, AT THE GOVERNMENT PRESS.
• From Zamorin of Calicut: Logan, William. Malabar. District Manual. Asian Educational Services, 1887.
• From Kingdom of Tanur: Logan, William: Malabār, the manual of Malabār, p.659
• From Portuguese India: Logan, William (2000). Malabar Manual. Asian Educational Services. ISBN 9788120604469.
• From Arakkal kingdom: Malabar Manual, Volume 1, William Logan

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 05:30, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

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Vandalism

I think this article is Vandalised beacuse :

1) Map shows Malabar coast from Karnataka's Karwar to Tamil Nadu Kanyakumari but State in infobox is mentioned Kerala and Karnataka only.

2) No. of districts ; 18 (4 in Kerala, 0in Karnataka, and 0 in Tamil Nadu) my question is if only 4 district in Kerala , then what is the necessary of mentioning 0 in Karnataka and Tamilnadu? If it is 18 then where are others?

3) Languages

• Official ; Malayalam, Tulu, English ; 

Tulu is not official in any of this States ( Karnataka, Kerala, Tamilnadu ) then how it is official in wiki infobox?

4) ISO 3166 code IN-KL and Vehicle registration KL-10 to KL- 14 This article mentionied ; "The term is used to refer to the entire Indian coast from the western coast of Konkan to the tip of India at Kanyakumari". Then why ISO code and Vehicle registration is only Kerala? If it is in Kerala only then why Map include other states and above statement is mentioned?

Inedits (talk) 05:50, 20 November 2022 (UTC)