Talk:MSCI/Archives/2015

My request for substantial changes, posted on November 10

In order to correct numerous outdated facts and figures in the Wikipedia page about this company, I posted a request for substantial changes to the page five days ago.

Can you please give me an idea of how long it might take until those changes are made or rejected by a Wikipedia editor?

Thanks.

Frank Beck Frank Beck (talk) 15:58, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

@Frank Beck: There is no deadline for Wikipedia to update materials: Wikipedia edits are made by volunteers who allocate their time according to their particular interests.

However, specifically in this instance, no one has responded because you did not include the correct template. Please use {{edit request}} in the future.

Even if you had used the correct template, you have failed to provide reliably published sources to verify the changes you wish to be made and so there is nothing that anyone would have done even if you had used the correct template. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:48, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Comments from TheRedPenofDoom

I have two questions:

1. I received comments from someone self-identifying as TheRedPenofDoom. Wikipedia says there is no user page with that name. How can I verify the accuracy of what this user has told me?

2. The user informed me that the Wikipedia pages about MSCI cannot be updated using information from the company's annual report, which is a primary source. In this case, it is a source material that has been filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. While I understand Wikipedia's preference for journalistic sources, a journalist could only obtain this particular information from the company's annual report or from the SEC filing. In this case, what is the objection to using a citation from the company's annual report?

Thank you.

Frank Beck

Frank Beck (talk) 02:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

@Frank Beck: Hi, while I do not have a "user page" User:TheRedPenOfDoom (what you see is a list of the many times it was created and deleted by others) I do have a "user talk page" User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom , just click my signature or from the blank user page click the Talk tab.

and while content from the company is not prohibited, we generally do not care a whit what the company wants to say about themselves and statements by the company are only usable for certain limited type of content and should make up only a small portion of the article content overall. We care what other reliable sources have to say about the subject. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:57, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

interpretation needed

What exactly are they [Gastineau] talking about in the paragraph that begins ""while they are questionable" -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Someone asked for clarification of what I mean. In Gastineau's book, the paragraph that begins "while they are questionable" (and the ones before and after it) appears to be talking about some policies that the SEC put into place in response to some practices at MSCI. If so, that is almost certainly something that should be covered in this article, but I dont have the expertise in the subject matter to be able translate something that appears highly technical into appropriate lay person language for this article. Or, I may be completely misunderstanding Gastineau. So I am looking for other people's interpretations and input. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:06, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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