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Flakhelfer Generation

I've removed the line about the effects of the indoctrination. Frankly : It's simply incorrect. Much has been written about the trauma shared by former Flakhelfer and much of the development of the Federal Republic is attributed to it. However, Nazi symphaties are not among the things usually assosciated with former Flakhelfer. Several of Germany's greatest liberal thinkers share that part in the biography.--HBS 18:39, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Luftwaffenhelfer (HJ)

the abbreviation "HJ" for "Luftwaffenhelfer" can't be correct. HJ stands for "Hitler Jugend" (Hitler Youth).

you are right, but its the official term used. A boy was Luftwaffenhelfer in the HJ, according to the german article the Hitler youth tried to influence the Luftwaffenhelfer. So it is not the abbreviation, it is the position. The abbr was LwH 80.171.8.186 (talk) 02:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

females?

The article on Lothar Sieber says that "he had become engaged to Gertrud Naudit, a Luftwaffenhelfer". This article says that only male students became Luftwaffenhelfer. 141.151.2.144 (talk) 00:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It should read Luftwaffenhelferin.

Luftwaffenhelferinnen

Removed the following: '(masculine plural) and Luftwaffenhelferinnen (feminine plural)'. Reason: Luftwaffenhelferinnen were female Luftwaffe auxiliaries in service since 1939; they were older than the Luftwaffenhelfer (having absolved their RAD-dienst), did not belong to the HJ, but the Luftwaffe, had their own uniforms, ranks, and rank insignia. Creuzbourg (talk) 18:44, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If I ever write an article about the Luftwaffenhelferinnen, I will also remove the following paragraph: In August 1944 some 660,000 regular male soldiers and 450,000 female helpers (anti-aircraft personnel) in all departments served with the Luftwaffe within the 'auxiliary antiaircraft defense'. Many of the girls came from the Bund Deutscher Mädel (BDM), although they had to officially join the Wehrmacht, because it was forbidden for BDM-girls to do armed duty. In 1945, "Flakhelferinnen" and other female subsidiaries were trained and allowed to carry weapons to protect themselves. Creuzbourg (talk) 18:48, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The history is more complicated than what is currently in the article. Following my late mother's family's flight from Latvia in late 1944 ahead of the Soviet advance, they ended up in a refugee camp in Germany where she and her younger sister were obliged to join a newly-formed unit of Latvian women (presumably as Luftwaffenhelferinnen) being trained to create smokescreens to protect factories from Allied bombing. It was very late in the war, and her unit wasn't deployed in active service. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 22:45, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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