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Fair use rationale for Image:Elvis Presley-Loving You (album cover).jpg

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Image:Elvis Presley-Loving You (album cover).jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 04:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for image updated. --Northmeister 16:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject class rating

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 19:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Zanimum (talk · contribs) 21:55, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Looks solid at first glance, I'll review it. -- Zanimum (talk) 21:55, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to post a review tomorrow morning. -- Zanimum (talk) 22:03, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for dilly-dallying. Here's a bit of the review. -- Zanimum (talk) 17:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Passing infobox.

Lead

  • While Paramount is mentioned as distributor just to the side of the lead, in the infobox, I'd mention them in the third paragraph, when you're introducing the Presley Pattern. While it was a middling film for Elvis, it really can be deemed one of the landmarks in cinema distribution, Paramount deserves credit.

Cast

  • What's with the strange formatting? I've honestly never seen formatting like this. Why not hyphens, or the word "as"?

Soundtrack

  • Normally I'd quibble about the inclusion of a fair use audio file on a movie page, but since it doesn't appear in the album's article, and there's no solo article about the song, I'll allow it.

Release and reception

  • In the lead, it's the "Elvis Presley pattern", here it's the "Presley pattern". Does it differ between Hall and Hall/Neale? I believe full text of Variety for that era is on Google Books, if they're website is only reviews... it would be worth digging into a period primary source to help decide.

Reviews

  • Overall, kudos on the section. Nothing to contest about the prose or organization of this section. I'm quite impressed by the "Evaluation in film guides"; you're likely not the first, but I've never seen this in a film article before. Certainly helps lend a modern view on the film.
  • What I would suggest though is to try and dig for a couple more period reviews of the film. There's got to be something more. To be clear, this is a longer-term goal, not something needed to gain a GA pass.

Assessment

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Opening comments

Excuse the strange formatting, after I nominated the article some edits were made by other users that affected the format, and I had to repair some of that. With that being said, full credit of the Evaluation in film guides section goes to Roman Spinner, I just added the citations to the more than useful material he added.

Lead
  • Paramount linked. Green tickY
Release and reception
  • Neal and Hall/Neal call it the "Presley Pattern". Period sources from the 60s also refer to it as the "Presley Pattern", while I also found a source from 1970 that calls it the "Elvis Presley Pattern". Guess we could settle with "Presley Pattern".--GDuwenTell me! 16:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Reviews
  • I'm a strong supporter of adding period review to this sort of articles. Initial reviews and further reviewing through the years help to get a better understanding of the subject. Problem is, as usual, period reviewing is not so easy to find (that's the moment I think of getting a subscription of something like newspapers.com). I added two new ones, guess that the one by Down Beat offers the most interesting material.--GDuwenTell me! 16:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Placing this back in the queue, since it's yet another one of Zanimum's abandoned reviews. Wizardman 14:40, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to hear that, waiting now for a new reviewer then.--GDuwenTell me! 22:34, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 23:35, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]


I'll review this. I will try to have some notes tonight, but I will probably not be able to complete the review for a day or two. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:35, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • "before convincing him to for the broadcast": looks like a partly edited sentence.
  • "While the concert is delayed, fans defend Deke's music, being shot by local newscasters": this is a bit clumsy; can you rephrase?
  • I'm a bit surprised the article isn't longer; I'm no expert on Presley, but I would have expected that by his third film there would be enough sources to fill out a good deal more in the production section, for example. Can you comment on whether there's more that could be added? GA doesn't require that an article be comprehensive, but it does require broad coverage.

-- The prose is good enough; I tweaked a couple of things -- please revert if I screwed anything up. The sources look good. I don't have any of them so can't check for close paraphrasing. The images are OK; can't say I'm crazy about the quality, but that's not your fault. The clip from the song is OK because there's no separate article about the song itself, though if you do create that article I think the clip should be removed from this article. I had a look on newspapers.com for reviews and found nothing worth adding. I'll place the nomination on hold while you respond to my questions above. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 05:00, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, there is not much about the production. Most of the rest of the information that I found about it are anecdotes that are not really interesting for the article. Since this film was merely a vehicle for Elvis, and a "quickie" (filmed in less than two months), I guess that makes it enough for a GA coverage of the topic. Needless to say, if I'm able to find more about it in the future, I'll be more than glad to expand it. Maybe it is that Elvis had so much things going back in 57' that most of his biographers so far didn't pay no mind to Loving You, or that there was not much more to say about it.--GDuwenTell me! 18:57, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I made one more tweak. Looks good; passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 19:11, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Character names are not indicated in on-screen cast credits

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It should be noted that, since the character names are not specified in either the opening or closing credits, their form in the article's cast list is taken from various resources, primarily AFI Catalog of Feature Films and IMDb, as well as from personal viewing of this film by editors. For the record, below is a reproduction of the cast listing in the opening credits:

          Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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