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==Wiki Education assignment: Information Literacy and Scholarly Discourse== This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 26 January 2022 and 21 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Nolasandwitch (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Amherron.

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Sally lunn

The first record of the sally lunn bun was recorded in bath. Would it be okay to say it was first recorded in bath if saying it came from bath is not acceptable Sharnadd (talk) 14:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sally lunn citation

Have returned the sally lunn defence as appears to have been accidently removed with a defence that states there is no trace left of where the dish was from. The eating house where the dish was created is still there Sharnadd (talk) 07:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, it was not removed in error, rather two references were replaced with a single reference that provided support for all statements made about Sally Lunn. In areas where there is no great contention, there is no need to have multiple sources as a citation when a single one will do. Also as a reminder @Sharnadd, you are well aware that when your edit has been reverted, you do not change it back and then discuss, but rather discuss first. Your claim of mistake is dubious because it was already addressed as “not an accident” in the edit summary. Respectfully, please remove the excess citation as it is redundant with the more concise citation provided. TiggerJay (talk) 15:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

the blog that you replaced the historic site and dictionary reference does not have as much information on as the historic site. It is not redundant as it contains different information. I also thought a blog did not make a good source and was not to be used Sharnadd (talk) 15:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is also not excessive to have two sources for one area of information. The historic source i have provided should stay as it provides different information that is not on the blog you posted Sharnadd (talk) 15:45, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If this was an article about Sally Lunn, you would very well be correct that extended historical context would be warranted. But as this is an article about nearly 100 different cuisine items and is already bordering on WP:UNDUE and the entire paragraph should be considered for deletion as it provided little reason for why it should have special mention among the many items listed here. We are not going to go into the backstory of every dish mentioned here. I would welcome a solid policy based augment for why this specific paragraph is even appropriate for this article? Why is it worthy of mention? I know you didn't add it, but you have brought attention to it. TiggerJay (talk) 16:00, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean the paragraph where sally lunn is mentioned as a recipe. You would have to ask the person who included it on the page. Maybe they found it an important dish in Louisiana creole cuisine. I am not going to question the importance of that particular dish to people. I have had the dish in question in bath but I would not know how well regarded it is in Louisiana Sharnadd (talk) 16:05, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since you don't seem to be defending that it was a notable cuisine of the Antebellum era, the Cuisine of Antebellum America article doesn't even mention the dish, multiple Google searches regarding the topic do not mention Sally Lunn (without adding it as an additional search criteria), and the fact that the person who added if (diff), @Spudlace, has been off-wiki for almost a year, I'm going to boldly remove the entire paragraph per WP:UNDUE. Spaidlace has been ping, so if he returned he is welcome to proffer support of why it should be included. TiggerJay (talk) 16:18, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit of trivia that has not been shown here by reliable sources (personal blogs and commercial websites are not reliable sources) to have a connection to Louisiana Creole cuisine, therefore it is undue. Regarding its history in the United States, The Oxford Companion to American Food and Drink says: "It is a favorite Virginia hot bread and is claimed by Colonial Williamsburg." The supposedly "oldest known African-American cookbook published in America", What Mrs. Fisher Knows about Old Southern Cooking: Soups, Pickles, Preserves, Etc., says: it "came to be enormously popular in the South—so much so that it is considered Southern. Oddly, I find no early Southern recipes...". Carlstak (talk) 17:23, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]