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Yes I’m not arguing that these aren’t citing publish opinions but there isn’t an objective metric or list of them that qualifies a film for being included anywhere. HootyTheOwlTube (talk) 08:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As you can see from the top of this page, there have been 11 deletion discussions dating back to 2003. All of them ended with strong votes for this to be kept. The study of "worst" films is objectively a notable topic.LM2000 (talk) 10:26, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
it shouldn't be considered notable if some of those people calling something "the worst ever made" call multiple movies "the worst ever made". That's not how "the worst" works and turns this into a list of tantrums. 72.47.31.51 (talk) 14:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These films are widely considered the worst by both credible journalists, entertainment industry professionals, and casual viewers. A lot of these films are also the self-destructions and career and reputation killers for the actors, directors, and IPs involved such as Mike Myers (Love Guru), Jaws IP (Jaws: the Revenge), and Super Mario Bros. 1993 (Everyone regrets being in the film, the directors have been permanently blacklisted from the film industry, and this film made Nintendo VERY protective of their IPs). It is a notable study due to seeing how one irredeemably bad film can kill a star, a big brand name, or be banned entirely from making films. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 17:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you find any sources calling it the "worst" movie? It has bad reviews but I don't think anyone considers it to be one of the worst movies ever, or even the worst superhero movie. To be honest it's not even the worst movie with the Joker in it. Di (they-them) (talk) 23:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I presume you mean Joker: Folie à Deux. I can't find any reviews calling it the worst of all time. The title of this Wired article posits that it may be "the worst comic book movie adaptation of all time", but what follows is not actually a review at all; it's a commentary on the film's box office returns and cultural impact. In other words, the title is misleading clickbait. I will also point out that the Tomatometer for Joker sits at 33% while the Tomatometer for Madame Web sits at 11% and The Crow at 24%. Have I mentioned how interesting this year has been in terms of bad movies? Carguychris (talk) 23:00, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While it is terrible, the reviews on its page do not cite it as "worst ever" or "worst animated movie of all time" unlike some of the other 2024 entries like Borderlands or Madame Webb. It is just bad/mediocre (albeit on the FAR more extreme end) similar to the new JurassicParks, HomeAlones, Ghostbusters, and IndianaJones, not amongst the worst ever made like Super Mario Bros. 1993 or Troll 2. Maybe the Razzies might nominate it for worst sequel or animated film, but it has "competition" this year such as the aforementioned Borderlands and Madame Webb. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 17:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a Spanish-horror film about catholic surfers learning karate to fight zombie ninjas in Torremolinos. This is the Spanish equivalent of Troll 2 due to its poor acting, vulgar and lowbrow content, cheap practical effects, and plot. It is widely considered to be one of the "best" so bad it's good films amongst Spanish speakers similar to how Troll 2 is seen as one of the "best" amongst English speaking audiences, and it won and was nominated for multiple anti-awards at the 2003 Godoys, the Spanish equivalent to the Razzies. Can it be included on the list for the same reasons as Troll 2 in addition to its Godoy awards and nominations, or is it not notable enough due to not having an English Wikipedia page? Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 21:29, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From the top of the talk page
Ensure that it is widely considered one of the worst films by a broad spectrum of both casual and professional film critics. There are hundreds of "bad" or even "crappy" films, this page is for the worst.
Cite at least one of those sources (Preferably the most reliable one(s)) that explicitly calls it "one of the worst films ever"
It had a 10 million dollar budget and it was released internationally so availability wasn't a problem. I should probably mention that it released on streaming platforms the day it was on theaters so most (if not all) of the money was earned from those streaming purchases. KabezEditz (talk) 21:12, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It had a 10 million dollar budget... Do you have a WP:RELIABLE source for that? The movie seems to have been ignored or treated as a curiosity by the mainstream press; this Forbes story says Shion Kaji wouldn't disclose the budget, only that it was "millions of dollars", and the story also explains that the movie was funded privately by the Kajis and their media partner PocketWatch, Inc., which explains why the information is hard to come by. Back to the original question: the first inclusion criteria for this list says a film must be "widely considered one of the worst films by a broad spectrum of both casual and professional film critics." Mainstream critical reviews of the film are so scant that, as I write this, it has no Tomatometer rating. Note that the inclusion criteria don't say anything about a film's financial success or lack thereof, and not every film on this list was a financial failure. The combination of a lurid or clever premise and low production costs are a proven formula for success in the film industry. Carguychris (talk) 15:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To Carguychris's point, box-office reception is different from critical reception. KabezEditz's premise that nobody came to see it cannot be true if it grossed $600,000. Either way, we need a variety of reliable sources that describe it as the worst movie ever made for it to get listed here.LM2000 (talk) 13:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
