Talk:List of Indian reservations in the United States
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[edit]Not all Indian reservations in the United States are called "reservation." Some areas, the reservations are simply called "community" or "tribal town" or "village." Yet in other places, they are called "Rancheria"/"Ranch" or "colony." However, becareful not to confuse the the Indian Tribe/Band name with their homeland... the Indian reservation. CJLippert 16:33, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
- Er, on that last bit, often the homeland isn't the reservation, because of forced resettlement, so be careful of that wording too :-).Skookum1 (talk) 17:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Also "Agency" as in Crow Agency, Montana, Fort Belknap Agency, Montana, Grand Ronde Agency, Oregon etc. note the triple-whammy on the Grand Ronde disambiguation page); I stopped by here, actually, to propose Category:Communities on American Indian reservations as a subcat of Category:American Indian reservations and also Category:United States communities with Native American majority populations. Hays, Montana is on the Crow Agency, for example, and Nespelem, Washington is on the Colville Indian Reservation (any link to that currently directs to the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation; there's also I think the Okanogan Indian Reservation adjoining it to the west, not sure just now), i.e. to the government, not to the reservation; in many cases separate reservation articles do not exist independently of the "national"/ethno articles (but should). As far as teh reservations category goes, so long as it's not capitalized it'd have to do, unless there are only two names for the land-designations {Agency and Reservation) and the colonies, rancherias, tribal towns etc are "community objects" within the land-designations, in which case the proposed communities cat would solve that. There's a parallel problem in Canada with both the category and the similarly named Category:First Nations reserves and subcats, which is a PC-ified form and not used even by the governmetns themselves, as "Indian Reserve" (capital-R) is a legal designation; and in some cases e.g. Alkali Lake, British Columbia it's an Indian Reserve as well as an adjoining/surrounding non-native community (in that case a couple of ranches); again the clincher there is the small-r "reserve" which kind of excuses it ("First Nations reserve" is not a usage I like myself, as it's rather POV in nature and also intent). Anyway I think the communities cat is a good idea so was going to propose it anyway; but also to note I just changed the Crow Indian Reservation item on this list ot redirect to the Crow Agency, rather than to Crow Nation; see new section below.Skookum1 (talk) 17:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Request for Sortable List
[edit]This list would be more useful if it were sortable by at least reservation and state and if possible by tribe. Americasroof 02:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, that would help, but part of the problem is that some IRs are in multiple states and they don't sort very well, and another problem is that some IRs are a subset of other IRs, which also don't sort very well. As for FDAIR, OTSA, HH, ANVSA, TDSA, SDAIR or SDAISA designations and the name, those would be easy. CJLippert (talk) 18:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
redirects should go to reservations/agencies, not to nations
[edit]I just discovered that Crow Indian Reservation was redirected to Crow Nation rather than to Crow Agency, Montana, which is the actual reservation article although in its current form it's written as a Montana-town article; and has almost no indigenous content and no tribal categorization (I'll add what i can once I figure out which) other than the demographic figures. I'm not sure how many of these there will turn out to be, i.e. the redirects, and I don't know the US well enough to know what other town-names to look at to add the Indian reservations cat and/or the Category:United States communities with Native American majority populations; see Category talk:United States communities with Native American majority populations also re other needed cats.Skookum1 (talk) 17:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Here's a good pair of examples:
- Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Colony
- Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Indian Reservation and Off-Reservation Trust Land
Where both redirect only to the ethno article Paiute and not to Shoshone; they should be, instaed, separate town/reservation articles; not sure if they're the same place; I don't have time to go explore the whole list but I think this is a recurrent problem; stubs at least for all reservations should be established, or located to existent census-designated areas as was the case with Crow Agency and Fort Belknap.....oddly, I got here by looking up the Little Rocky Mountains, which is a set of buttes at teh soutehrn end of the Ft Belknap Agency and was intending to write an article on it....about 45 minutes ago, so will go back to geography adn leave ethnographic politicking for the rest of the day, or try to :-). Skookum1 (talk) 17:38, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- For most federally recognized tribes, the tribal and reservation articles are one of the same, since the reservation is simply the landbase of the tribe. Crow Agency, Montana is a town, and a small one at that, so there's no reason why the reservation link should redirect there. Both Fallon Paiute articles should redirect to Paiute-Shoshone Tribe of the Fallon Reservation and Colony. -Uyvsdi (talk) 23:24, 25 February 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi
Update with most recent Supreme Court decision?
[edit]With The supreme court deciding that the entire eastern half of Oklahoma is still considered Indian Country, I thought there might be mention of it here. Not sure what the distinction, if any, is between land the Creek tribe owns and official reservation land for the Creek, so I didn't make any edits. But I thought I would draw attention to it so that someone smarter than me could update the page.
- If I understand correctly, the land is only considered Native American country for purposes of the courts. Someone arrested there is subject to Indian law rather than state law. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Are statistical areas useful to readers?
[edit]I just added definitions for the existing lists "Alaska Native Village Statistical Areas" and "State Designated Tribal Statistical Areas". However, I wonder how useful these lists of entities defined by the Census Bureau only a decade ago are to readers. I think the intent is a list of lands where various tribes and similar entities have jurisdiction, along with some indication as to the nature of that jurisdiction. Most readers don't come to this page to learn the names of methods the Census Bureau uses. Condensinguponitself (talk) 16:18, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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