Talk:Kate Kelly (sister of Ned Kelly)

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On 3 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Kate Kelly (Kelly Gang) to Kate Kelly (sister of Ned Kelly). The result of the discussion was moved.

Page name

The title of this page is misleading. I understand that the intention is to distinguish it from other Kate Kelly pages but Kate Kelly was never an outlaw. I propose the title "Kate Kelly (Kelly Gang sympathiser)" as being both distinguishing and contextual. By that I mean the term "sympathiser" was used by contemporary sources to describe people who supported the gang.

Not yet auto-confirmed or I'd do it myself.

RedDubh (talk) 22:28, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and it's still there.--Aichik (talk) 21:34, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done RedDubh (talk) 00:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Inflammatory statement

The following sentence is highly inflammatory and derogatory to Irish Catholics and should be reworded:

"There were very few Irish Catholics in the Greta area as most families were members of the Primitive Methodist Church who were honest hard-working families". 219.90.165.44 (talk) 08:52, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Use of family anecdotes or polemic

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It also detracts from the quality of the page when someone uses partisan polemic. RedDubh (talk) 00:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In particular the section on the Fitzpatrick incident needs to be updated. Recent historiography (https://research.monash.edu/en/publications/redeeming-fitzpatrick-ned-kelly-and-the-fitzpatrick-incident) believes that Fitzpatrick did not force himself on Kate. It's more likely that the story was fabricated by the Kelly family to portray Fitzpatrick in a bad light. The Wikipedia page on Ned Kelly has been updated to show Fitzpatrick's side of the story, but this page still feels like an editorial. SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 16:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 10:52, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kate Kelly (Kelly Gang) → Kate Kelly (sister of Ned Kelly) – Just moved this from the unsatisfactory Kate Kelly (Kelly Gang sympathiser), but just (Kelly Gang) isn't really great either. Opening for discussion, alternatives welcome. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 04:22, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Her relationship to Ned Kelly is the only real reason for her notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:08, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.