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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Jutlandic dialect → Jutlandic – I'm requesting a move to the new article, along with its associated talk page, because while the terms "Jutish" and "Jutlandic" can be synonyms and refer to either anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes', anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark, the terms "Jute", "Jutish" and "Jutic" normally refer to anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes' (according to the entries on Wiktionary, Jute, Jutish and Jutic), while the terms "Jutlandic" and "Jutlandish" normally refer to anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark (according to the entries on Wiktionary, Jutlandic and Jutlandish), while the term "Jutlander" normally refers to anyone from the Jutland peninsula in Denmark (according to the entry on Wiktionary).
But this definitely warrants further discussion. It seems we have five options here:
Retain the status quo, with the disambiguation page as the primary topic,
The terms "Jute", "Jutish" and "Jutic" normally refer to anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes' (also according to the entries on Encyclopedia Britannica and other websites and dictionaries), while the terms "Jutlandic" and "Jutlandish" normally refer to anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark (also according to the entries on Encyclopedia Britannica and other websites and dictionaries), while the term "Jutlander" normally refers to anyone from the Jutland peninsula in Denmark (also according to the entries on Encyclopedia Britannica and other websites and dictionaries). -- PK2 (talk) 08:32, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Option 2 would seem best. Jutes is definitely the primary topic for Jutish, and there's no need for a Jutlandic dab page; per WP:ONEOTHER it would be sufficient to have a hatnote on the Jutlandic dialect article to point out that the adjective Jutlandic can also mean other things originating in, or associated with, Jutland. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:56, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just a few points. According to Bede the Jutes came from Jutland. Modern genealogists and archaeologists doubt this and suspect that the so called Jutes who settled in England probably came from Frisia/ Francia. Whether they originally came from the Jutland peninsular and settled initially in Francia/ Frisia then, after a few generations, went to England is something that hasn't been resolved. The dialect they spoke is called Kentish, rather than Jutish. I think that "Option 2" works best for me as it keeps the ancient world seperate to that of the modern. Wilfridselsey (talk) 14:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
