Talk:Justiniano Borgoño

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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 22:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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Justiniano Borgoño

• ... that after being held as a prisoner of war for three months, Justiniano Borgoño's (pictured) release was brokered by an enemy general?

• Source: Grandes Forjadores del Perú (in Spanish) pp. 80–81.

• ALT1: ... that a bust of former President of Peru Justiniano Borgoño (pictured) was stolen from its pedestal by thieves? Source: https://rpp.pe/peru/la-libertad/trujillo-alameda-de-los-heroes-luce-deteriorada-y-sucia-noticia-1045116
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/M/T Petar Hektorović

5x expanded by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 02:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC).

• The page had 649 B of readable prose prior to expansion, and currently has 8755, so it has been successfully expanded over 5 times. WP:EARWIG says "Violation Unlikely". QPQ is done. Hooks are interesting. However, there is a problem with this nomination. The first hook is cited to a Google Doc that I cannot access. I don't know what the document is or if it's even reliable. With a better source this should be good to go. Di (they-them) (talk) 18:33, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

• [1] I'm not sure why it didn't work the link didn't work the first time; it's not working for me either. This link is just the only available online upload, it is a real book with ISBN 9789972625503 (just so you know it's not just a random google file) Kimikel (talk) 22:08, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

• Thank you, good to go! Di (they-them) (talk) 00:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Kimikel (talk · contribs) 00:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 02:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I'll review this for GARC Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 02:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Finished up. Thanks for an enjoyable read, you write very well, and I perhaps felt obligated to nitpick. Feel free to flag disagreement. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 11:48, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

@Rollinginhisgrave I'm very sorry, I just noticed that you reviewed this. My bad. Thank you very much for the review, I'll get to it tomorrow. Kimikel (talk) 03:43, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Rollinginhisgrave just went through and did most of these, i will have to look into article 91 and cutting the infobox down a bit. Kimikel (talk) 13:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Just cut down the infobox and implemented the rest of the changes. As far as Article 91, I'm not sure. In the 1867 constitution, which was the most recent at that time, Art 91 doesn't really connect to that. In the current constitution it also doesn't quite have to do with the presidency. I can cut out that mention if you'd like; I just went with what the source said. Kimikel (talk) 16:30, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

In cases where we don't know what the source means, I strongly believe we either cut or attribute. We are writing for readers; we can't well tell them "I understand you don't understand the text, but the editor also didn't understand the source". If you don't cut it, leave it in a footnote, i.e. "according to X he did this under article 91, although it did not elaborate as to what this article entailed" etc. This is not enough to stand in the way of me passing at this time, I'll leave it in your capable hands. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 11:39, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Prose and content

• I can see Army is capitalized in Peruvian Army. Is this reflective of RS' use?
• leading to Cáceres' reelection in August of that year mention whether this was Borgoño's intention as it's a bit confusing if he won or lost the election
• Mention in the lede what year he was president to contextualize when it occurred between the War of the Pacific and his retirement.
• Why do you use such a long name for his father? According to the Spanish article it's not how he was commonly referred to.
• established government, and against the forces I think , and should be removed
• continued to administrate → administrated
• sustained an injury to his right leg euphemistic
• following his release from captivity
• During that year, he was
• WP:CINS
  • , and became the President of Peru in April 1894
  • , and then transferred to the Morro Solar in Chorrillos.
  • ... so on
• combated → fought
• the disarmament of → disarming
• Could you clarify if he held elected position before Cáceres became President?
• What is article 91?
• 10 August 1894, succeeding Borgoño ? What do you think
• What is violent intervention?
• Borgoño decided to leave[left] Peru and relocate[d]
• by thieves haha
• Is there anything you can cut from the infobox?

Suggestions

• capturing → capture
• which he continued to administrate until the outbreak of the War of the Pacific. → continued to administrate for twenty years (avoids repetition of outbreak of the War of the Pacific in following sentence.
• attended to consider → treated, as it is a bit euphemistic
• Ancon, Lima MOS:GEOLINK

Sources

• [4] Y
• [8] Y Do you think he would pass GNG?
• [11] Y
• [15] clock The elections called by Borgoño offered Cáceres as its only candidate This reads as the ballot being controlled rather than opponents abstaining
• [19] Can you quote this for me?
  • "When Morales died in 1894, the military intervened to give power to another Cáceres lieutenant, Justiniano Borgoño." Kimikel (talk) 13:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• [23] As with this one, not loading on my device for some reason.
  • Archived Kimikel (talk) 13:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Other

• Images clock would the bust be under copyright in Spain? Would a picture simply of the bust be able to fall under copyright?
• Broad / summary style Y
• Neutral Y
• Stable Y
• COPYVIO / No OR Y 1% earwig, nothing found in spot check so far

Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 11:20, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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