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On 28 March 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Joint Light Tactical Vehicle. The result of the discussion was 1 moved to Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, 1 to Joint Light Tactical Vehicle program.

JILTVEE??

I reverted this one-off edit as it was unexplained and uncited. I Googled before I reverted and can find no real evidence this term is generally used. In fact, Google delivered just 7 results, 2 of those from Wikipedia! As time progresses the term may become used (or may not), but for now, I suggest it is purely speculative (and gimmicky) and in use by the odd person, so not really suited for inclusion. I suspect there will be a Wiki policy that covers this type of thing, but that's for those more versed in Wiki than I should this topic ever become a more in-depth conversation...Wolpat (talk) 10:04, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Slovakia buys 192 M1278

deal isn't officially through yet obviously, so this is FYI to keep an eye on it: https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/slovakia-m1278a1a2-heavy-gun-carriers-joint-light-tactical-vehicles --91.41.33.123 (talk) 23:01, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 March 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: 1 moved to Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, 1 to Joint Light Tactical Vehicle program. Per WP:NOTCURRENTTITLE, a consensus has been reached for the second item to be moved to Joint Light Tactical Vehicle program, but another RM can be opened at any time to decide if "competition" might be preferred. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 16:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

– There are basically two extremely similar articles about the JLTV. Actually three. Joint Light Tactical Vehicle resembles an article about the development program, while Oshkosh L-ATV is about the JLTV selected for production. There is enough content for two articles, but I would guess that most people searching for "JLTV" would expect to find an article about the production vehicle than the competition that produced it.

Background: "L-ATV" was the marketing name for the truck originally designed by Oshkosh for the JLTV program, which Oshkosh won in 2015. Presumably Oshkosh did not wish to tie the vehicle's success to the JLTV program, and so branded it as Each branch of the U.S. military calls it the "JLTV". Oshkosh usually refers to the L-ATV as the JLTV, although very occasionally Oshkosh will market a variant of the JLTV as an L-ATV on their own initiative. Here is a press release where Oshkosh announces the sale of "JLTVs", not "L-ATVs", to European countries. AM General will take over production of the JLTV from Oshkosh at the end of the year. They will be calling their version the JLTV A2.

If this move is carried out there should be a section about the competition with a pointer to Joint Light Tactical Vehicle competition. Schierbecker (talk) 02:44, 28 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Military history and WikiProject Military history/Military land vehicles task force have been notified of this discussion. Schierbecker (talk) 04:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support first but propose Joint Light Tactical Vehicle → Joint Light Tactical Vehicle program - per the lead sentence of the article. News searches post 2017 put Joint Light Tactical Vehicle ahead of Oshkosh L-ATV by about 2:1. Cinderella157 (talk) 00:28, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: would like more consensus on competition vs program Bensci54 (talk) 16:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Relist for same reason as Bensci BilledMammal (talk) 06:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Cinderella157's suggestion is fine for the sake of getting this move done. I would prefer "competition", but maybe we can work that out at a future RM. Schierbecker (talk) 02:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Agreed. Either competition or program is acceptable to me. Regards -Fnlayson (talk) 16:21, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.