Talk:John Troglita

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Date	Process	Result
January 6, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed
May 20, 2012	WikiProject A-class review	Approved

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 3, 2007.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that the exploits of the 6th century Roman general John Troglita are the subject of one of the last epic poems of Antiquity, the Iohannis by Flavius Cresconius Corippus?

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:John Troglita/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ealdgyth (talk · contribs) 17:11, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll bite. Review incoming... Ealdgyth - Talk 17:11, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
A few spots that need some smoothing out and a few MOS niggles
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Lead:
- "Totila quickly secured a first victory in the winter..." TOTILA? Do you mean Troglita?
- "John's exploits, especially against the Moors in Africa.." (and throughout). Per MOS - we use last name exclusively throughout, except when that might cause confusion, when the full name should be used. Should change all the plain "John" to "Troglita". I caught some, but checking should be done for ones I'm sure I missed.
Origins:
- "According to information provided by Procopius and Corippus..." Linkage for the two authors here? And although you introduce Corippus in the lead, you should do so here otherwise the information in the lead isn't sourced in the body of the article - which is required per WP:LEAD ...
- "Trogilta remained in Africa after Belisarius' departure..." suggest "Trogilta remained in the province of Africa after Belisarius' departure..." as many non specialists won't have a clue that you mean the province rather than the whole continent.
- Do we have a link for "Leuathae tribe"?
- Linkie for "general Nabedes"?
High command:
- Linkie for "Battle of Cillium"?
- Linkie for "general Guntharic"?
Suppression:
"In late 546, when John reached Carthage, the situation was dire: the Leuathae and Austurae tribes from Tripolitania were raiding Byzacena with impunity, while the Moors of Byzacene under their chieftain Antalas had blockaded the remaining imperial troops, few in number and demoralized, under Marcentius the dux of Byzacene and Gregory the Armenian in Carthage, in the coastal cities." WAYY runon sentence - suggest breaking up into two or three sentences.
- Linkie for "triumphal entry"?
Battle of Marta:
- Linkie for "fortress of Laribus"?
Battle of the Fields of Cato:
- Linkie for "prefect Athanasius"?
Later activities:
- "Troglita, now promoted to the rank of a patricius as attested by Jordanes (Romana 385), remained in command in Africa..." the parenthetical reference here is odd and inconsistent - needs to be fixed.
- Linkie for "J.B. Bury"... I know we have one somewhere...
Sources:
- LOoks like from this that the Bury work is a reprint of a 1931 edition - would be nice to have this noted in the bibliographic entry.
Images:
- Any chance we can have a newer or at least a larger size on the map?

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth - Talk 18:05, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ealdgyth! Thanks for the review, and a happy new year to you! I've dealt with most of he points you raised. Laribus and Iunci don't have articles yet, I merely added a reference to the modern equivalents and nearby towns. I have also left "triumphal entry" unlinked, because it was not a formal triumph; "triumphal" is used as an adjective here. For the map, I did try to make a new one, but the results were unsatisfactory. I'll give it another try eventually, but time is rather short at the moment (I'm in the army doing my military service). Cheers, Constantine ✍ 08:17, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good... hey, it's a new year, it's more Byzantines! Passing this now. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:20, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]