Talk:John Grant (Gunpowder Plot)

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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 18, 2007.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that John Grant's moated manor near Stratford-on-Avon was chosen for storing weapons for the rebellion that was to follow the Gunpowder plot?

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not convinced

"our project was far from being sinful that I rely entirely upon my merits in bearing a part of that noble action as an abundant satisfaction and expiation for all sins committed by me during the rest of my life".<ref name=muse>The Museum of Foreign Literature, Science, and Art By Robert Walsh, Eliakim Littell, John Jay Smith, 1835, E.Littel</ref> After crossing himself he was executed."

I can only find reference to this in older texts, the modern sources seem to ignore it. I think its best therefore to place it here, just in case its a bit of Victorian elaboration. Parrot of Doom 19:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"His son, Wyntour Grant, was able to recover his father's forfeited lands in 1623 but quickly sold them to Sir Thomas Pickering.<ref name=gun>[http://www.gunpowder-plot.org The Gunpowder Plot Society] accessed October 2007</ref>" - ditto. Parrot of Doom 09:34, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:John Grant (Gunpowder Plot)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Nikkimaria (talk) 13:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'll be reviewing this article for potential GA status. My review should be posted shortly. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 13:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've opted to pass this as GA, and leave the below as suggestions for further improvement. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:49, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Comments below. Parrot of Doom 08:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Writing and formatting

Given the length of the article, the lead should be 3 paragraphs at most
- Its not so much a case of length with the lead, more that the lead is divided into the three most important parts of the story. I've merged the first two, however.
"Grant was born some time around 1570" -> "Grant was born around 1570"?
- Done.
Don't link the same term multiple times, especially not in close proximity
- You'll have to point that one out.
  - Catesby and Wintour are both linked twice in Plot
Explain/link "poursuivants"?
- Its just an English word, there are dictionaries for that :)
"Grant likely stored weapons and ammunition there" - "there" being Norbrook or Lapworth?
- Done.
"on Monday 4 November Grant and a friend were to be found at the Red Lion inn" - phrasing is slightly awkward
- I think this might be because Wikipedia doesn't allow a "the" betweeen 4 and November, as I read it aloud it sounds ok to me. I've switched Dunchurch and inn around.
"en route" is common enough that it need not be italicized
- I'll leave that for others to decide, as I tend to agree.
"Thus, as the plot moved closer to fruition, on Monday 4 November Grant and a friend were to be found at the Red Lion inn, in Dunchurch, with the newly-recruited Everard Digby and his "hunting party".[nb 3] The group attended a mass the next morning, before moving on.[16] ... Tipped off by an anonymous letter to William Parker, 4th Baron Monteagle, late on Monday night the authorities made a search of Parliament. There they discovered Fawkes guarding the gunpowder the plotters had placed in the undercroft beneath the House of Lords.[15] Catesby and the others, en route to the Midlands, were alerted to his arrest by those conspirators who had since fled London. Together they rode to Dunchurch and met Digby and his party" - chronology is somewhat unclear here given the overlap between section
- I've attempted to improve it, there may be one or two too many "had"s though.
"Fawkes's accomplices" or "Fawkes' accomplices"?
- Read aloud, the former I think.
"2 pm that afternoon" - is this 6 or 7 November?
- I've added clarification of the arrival of the sheriff, but I may put the entire "on 7 november" line in as a note. Depends how many people find it confusing, which I must admit it is (slightly).
Be consistent in how times are formatted
- Done.
"a mass" or "a Mass"?
- Done, thanks for a very thorough GA review :) Parrot of Doom 08:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Accuracy and verifiability

What is the name of the author for Further reading?
- Its already there?
  - Yes, but is it S.J. Francis Edwards or Francis S.J. Edwards?
Format Further reading the same as References
- Done.
  - Publisher?

Broad

If any further information about his background is available, I would suggest adding it
- He was a minor player, so I don't think there's much else available. Parrot of Doom 08:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality

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