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Robinson exodus from Kane Studio

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This may not be the proper forum but according to George Roussos,(From his interview in Comic Book Interview Super Special:Batman) the reason he and Robinson ended up working for DC is because they were busted for moonlighting. To earn more money than what Kane was paying them, Robinson and Roussos began working as assistants for a cartoonist who worked for a rival publisher. This cartoonist's style was similar to Bob Kane's (probably a Milton Caniff clone as was Kane)and Whitney Ellsworth, who knew about Kane's assistants,recognised their work. Ellsworth invited them to work directly for DC where they would receive better pay,although they would have to work in the Bullpen under direct editorial supervision. In the Comics Journal (#271), Robinson described how the duo met with Kane and formally asked for more money. Kane probably refused and Robinson and Roussos accepted DC's offer. It worked out for everyone in the long run because Robinson, Roussos and now Kane (who no longer had a staff to pay) all ended up benefitting financially. I do agree the article could use a little fixing up.Bernard ferrell 16:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's cool, now that we have a source: Comic Book Interview Super Special: Batman. Is this a magazine, or a comic book, or a trade paperback? Please post any info you have, and I'll incorporate this now-cited material. Good research! --Tenebrae 22:29, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a great volume. It's in comic book size but very thick like the old "80-Page Giant"s. There is the rare original version with a Frank Miller "Dark Knight" drawing on the cover(I think it's one of the comcept drawings he submitted to DC). The one I have is the expanded reprint with Michael Keaton on the cover wearing the cowl. Oh, and what I left out was that Bill Finger followed Robinson/Roussos and joined DC as well. According to his son Fred (who really doesn't know for certain), Bill assumed he would have more freedom, Boy, was he in for a surprise! Kane also learned a lesson from this experience, he never mentioned or admitted he had assistants ever again, not until lo-ong after his retirement.The Batmaniac —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernard ferrell (talk • contribs) 15:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do some research on the Super Special and try and work some background in. Please note that whether or not Kane "learned a lesson" is speculation and not encyclopedic. --Tenebrae 17:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This may not be the right place but: I am trying to find out how they came up with the idea of giving the Joker a purple suit? I'm also curious if there were any early incarnations that included the villain without makeup, wearing a copper eye piece and a black top hat. --Depris

NY Times article

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Just noticed this: Gustines, George Gene (October 4, 2010), "The Joker in the Deck: Birth of a Supervillain", The New York Times. Should be useful in expanding the article. postdlf (talk) 06:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cool find! How did I not see this?! --Tenebrae (talk) 17:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sikoryak image

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Copy of discussion from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics.

I'm biased, so I need to request outside opinions. The Robert Sikoryak art in artist Jerry Robinson's article is not a photo of Jerry, is not art by Jerry, and lacks any particular notability. According to the blogger who has been cited as the image source (http://pappysgoldenage.blogspot.com/2012_06_01_archive.html), it comes from The New Yorker, but we do not know if that is accurate. A blogspot page is not a reliable source when determining image usage rights. More importantly for the article itself, there are too many photos of Jerry and samples of his own artwork available for us to include this image. I removed it days ago but someone restored it, so I think that even the slightest controversy (as indicated by the single rv) means that this falls outside the simple edits that are appropriate for me to make on Jerry's article. I believe I would feel the same way even if I had not known Jerry, but I defer to your judgment. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 08:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just as a note, there's a scan of the actual TNY article here. || Tako (talk) 13:36, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
While I'm not an expert in WP image usage myself (see "Guidance on using images" thread above), I agree that the image in question doesn't belong in that article. My understanding is that images are to be put into articles to illustrate something in the article, not just for the sake of having an image. The drawing of Jerry Robinson doesn't illustrate his work, and it's redundant to the two photos already in the article as an illustration of Robinson himself.--NukeofEarl (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody else has weighed in. I removed it. For the record, in case discussion resumes, here's the version with the image: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerry_Robinson&oldid=554593971. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 09:37, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
End of copied discussion. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 22:05, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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