Talk:Jeff Sagarin

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Elo changes in ~2013
William Wallace, who was covering football at the New York Times. Wallace wrote a profile of Sagarin for Pro Quarterback magazine, and in the fall of 1972, he mentioned Sagarin to a contact at Pro Football Weekly. That publication bought Sagarin's ratings ... In 1985 Sagarin got his really big break: USA Today started carrying his computerized standings.

ELO -> Elo

I have altered "ELO" to "Elo", which is appropriate. It is not an acronym, it is a person's name. "Elo rating" is appropriate. "ELO rating" is not.

Just wanted to note that his USA pages don't include Elo Chess ratings anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.113.62 (talk) 03:12, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Changes in NCAA records book

While looking over the NCAA Records Books College football national championships selections, I notice Sagarin picks that change. Such as 1962 Alabama (1995 book), 1962 USC (2000 book), 1962 Ole Miss (2004 book). We should identify any changes in formula by Sagarin and different sets of champions, as was recently done at Billingsley Report.

Sagarin updates in the NCAA records books:

1995 book:

Sagarin's first appearance. "1956–present"

1996 book:

"1978–present" and "Predated national champions from 1938 and 1956–1977"

2000 book:

Selection table now includes 1944–1955.
Bio still states 1978–present and predated for 1938, 1956–1977.

2004 book:

"New in this book: Sagarin Ratings for 1919-present with ELO"
"The Sagarin Rating includes his actual rating that combines scores and pure won-lost records. Sagarin also now provides an ELO-Chess rating that uses only pure won-lost records, and is the one utilized in the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) rankings."

PK-WIKI (talk) 01:14, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In-progress construction of a Sagarin Ratings champions table according to the various NCAA books below; help / review appreciated:

Season	1995 NCAA book^[1]	1996^[2]–1999^[3] NCCA books	2000^[4]–2003^[5] NCAA books	2004^[6]–2023^[7] NCAA books
1919	—	—	—	Centre Illinois (ELO-Chess)
1920	—	—	—	California
1921	—	—	—	California
1922	—	—	—	California Princeton (ELO-Chess)
1923	—	—	—	Cornell Illinois (ELO-Chess)
1924	—	—	—	Notre Dame
1925	—	—	—	Michigan Alabama (ELO-Chess)
1926	—	—	—	Michigan Stanford (ELO-Chess)
1927	—	—	—	Texas A&M
1928	—	—	—	USC Georgia Tech (ELO-Chess)
1929	—	—	—	USC Notre Dame (ELO-Chess)
1930	—	—	—	Alabama
1931	—	—	—	USC
1932	—	—	—	USC Michigan (ELO-Chess)
1933	—	—	—	Michigan
1934	—	—	—	Minnesota
1935	—	—	—	SMU
1936	—	—	—	LSU
1937	—	—	—	Pittsburgh
1938	—	Tennessee	Tennessee	Tennessee
1939	—	—	—	Cornell Texas A&M (ELO-Chess)
1940	—	—	—	Minnesota
1941	—	—	—	Minnesota
1942	—	—	—	Georgia
1943	—	—	—	Notre Dame
1944	—	—	Army	Army Ohio State (ELO-Chess
1945	—	—	Army	Army
1946	—	—	Notre Dame	Notre Dame
1947	—	—	Michigan	Michigan
1948	—	—	Michigan	Michigan
1949	—	—	Michigan	Notre Dame
1950	—	—	Kentucky	Kentucky Tennessee (ELO-Chess)
1951	—	—	Maryland	Maryland
1952	—	—	Michigan State	Michigan State Georgia Tech (ELO-Chess)
1953	—	—	Notre Dame	Notre Dame
1954	—	—	Ohio State	Ohio State
1955	—	—	Oklahoma	Oklahoma
1956	Tennessee	Oklahoma	Oklahoma Tennessee	Oklahoma Tennessee (ELO-Chess)
1957	Oklahoma	Michigan State	Michigan State	Auburn
1958	Iowa	Iowa	LSU	LSU
1959	Ole Miss	Ole Miss	Ole Miss	Ole Miss Syracuse (ELO-Chess)
1960	Iowa	Iowa	Iowa	Iowa
1961	Texas	Texas	Alabama	Alabama
1962	Alabama	Alabama	USC	Ole Miss
1963	Texas	Texas	Texas	Texas
1964	Notre Dame	Notre Dame	Notre Dame	Arkansas
1965	Michigan State	Michigan State	Michigan State	Michigan State
1966	Notre Dame	Notre Dame	Notre Dame	Notre Dame Alabama (ELO-Chess)
1967	USC	USC	USC	USC
1968	Texas	Texas	Texas	Texas Ohio State (ELO-Chess)
1969	Texas	Texas	Texas	Texas Penn State (ELO-Chess)
1970	Notre Dame	Notre Dame	Texas	Notre Dame Nebraska (ELO-Chess)
1971	Nebraska	Nebraska	Nebraska	Nebraska
1972	USC	USC	USC	USC
1973	Ohio State	Ohio State	Oklahoma	Oklahoma Ohio State (ELO-Chess)
1974	Oklahoma	Oklahoma	Oklahoma	Oklahoma
1975	Oklahoma	Oklahoma	Oklahoma	Oklahoma
1976	Pittsburgh	Pittsburgh	Pittsburgh	Pittsburgh
1977	Notre Dame	Notre Dame	Notre Dame	Notre Dame Texas (ELO-Chess)
1978	Oklahoma	Oklahoma	Oklahoma	Oklahoma USC (ELO-Chess)
1979	Alabama	Alabama	Alabama	Alabama
1980	Nebraska	Nebraska	Nebraska	Pittsburgh Georgia (ELO-Chess)
1981	Penn State	Penn State	Clemson	Clemson
1982	Penn State	Penn State	Penn State	Penn State
1983	Nebraska	Nebraska	Nebraska	Nebraska Auburn (ELO-Chess
1984	Florida	Florida	Florida	Florida BYU (ELO-Chess)
1985	Michigan	Michigan	Michigan	Oklahoma Florida
1986	Oklahoma	Oklahoma	Oklahoma	Oklahoma Penn State (ELO-Chess)
1987	Florida State	Florida State	Florida State	Miami
1988	Miami	Miami	Notre Dame	Miami Notre Dame (ELO-Chess)
1989	Notre Dame	Notre Dame	Notre Dame	Notre Dame
1990	Miami	Miami	Miami	Miami Georgia Tech (ELO-Chess)
1991	Washington	Washington	Washington	Washington Miami (ELO-Chess)
1992	Florida State	Florida State	Florida State	Florida State Alabama (ELO-Chess)
1993	Florida State	Florida State	Florida State	Florida State
1994	Penn State	Penn State	Penn State	Penn State Nebraska (ELO-Chess)
1995	Nebraska	Nebraska	Nebraska	Nebraska
1996	—	Florida	Florida	Florida
1997	—	Nebraska	Nebraska	Nebraska
1998	—	Tennessee	Ohio State	Tennessee
1999	—	—	Florida State	Florida State
2000	—	—	Oklahoma	Oklahoma
2001	—	—	Miami	Miami
2002	—	—	USC	USC Ohio State (ELO-Chess)
2003	—	—	—	LSU
2004	—	—	—	USC
2005	—	—	—	Texas
2006	—	—	—	Florida
2007	—	—	—	LSU
2008	—	—	—	Florida
2009	—	—	—	Alabama
2010	—	—	—	Auburn
2011	—	—	—	Alabama
2012	—	—	—	Alabama
2013	—	—	—	Florida State
2014	—	—	—	Ohio State
2015	—	—	—	Alabama
2016	—	—	—	Clemson
2017	—	—	—	Alabama
2018	—	—	—	Clemson
2019	—	—	—	LSU
2020	—	—	—	Alabama
2021	—	—	—	Georgia
2022	—	—	—	Georgia

References

^ 1995 NCAA Football Records Book. National Collegiate Athletic Association. 1995. pp. 54–58. Retrieved July 15, 2023.
^ 1996 NCAA Football Records Book. National Collegiate Athletic Association. 1996. pp. 54–59. Retrieved July 15, 2023.
^ 1999 NCAA Football Records Book. National Collegiate Athletic Association. 1999. pp. 58–65. Retrieved July 15, 2023.
^ 2000 NCAA Football Division I-A Records (PDF). National Collegiate Athletic Association. 2000. Retrieved May 10, 2023.
^ Official 2003 NCAA Football Records (PDF). National Collegiate Athletic Association. August 2003. pp. 73–80. Retrieved May 10, 2023.
^ Official 2004 NCAA Football Records (PDF). National Collegiate Athletic Association. August 2004. pp. 81–88. Retrieved May 10, 2023.
^ 2023 NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records (PDF). National Collegiate Athletic Association. 2023. Archived from the original on August 26, 2023. Retrieved August 26, 2023.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: unfit URL (link)

Contemporary BCS rankings

1998: Tennessee^[1]^[2] (circa 2013, Sagarin's website lists Ohio State)
1999: Florida State
2000:
2001:
2002: Ohio State (no-MOV), USC (MOV)

References

^ Sagarin, Jeff (January 1999). "Jeff Sagarin's NCAA football ratings — Through games of Monday, January 4, 1999 (FINAL)". USA Today. Archived from the original on January 17, 1999. Retrieved May 5, 2024. No. 1 Tennessee 98.65 | No. 2 Ohio St. 98.12
^ Hansen, Marc (January 6, 2024). Written at Tempe, Arizona. "The final word: The teams in the top five in the Sagarin college football rankings for 1998". The Des Moines Register. Des Moines, Iowa. Retrieved May 5, 2024. Tennessee (13–0) | Sagarin No. 1

PK-WIKI (talk) 07:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[NCAA1995-1] 1995 NCAA Football Records Book. National Collegiate Athletic Association. 1995. pp. 54–58. Retrieved July 15, 2023.

[NCAA1996-2] 1996 NCAA Football Records Book. National Collegiate Athletic Association. 1996. pp. 54–59. Retrieved July 15, 2023.

[NCAA1999-3] 1999 NCAA Football Records Book. National Collegiate Athletic Association. 1999. pp. 58–65. Retrieved July 15, 2023.

[NCAA2000-4] 2000 NCAA Football Division I-A Records (PDF). National Collegiate Athletic Association. 2000. Retrieved May 10, 2023.

[NCAA2003-5] Official 2003 NCAA Football Records (PDF). National Collegiate Athletic Association. August 2003. pp. 73–80. Retrieved May 10, 2023.

[NCAA2004-6] Official 2004 NCAA Football Records (PDF). National Collegiate Athletic Association. August 2004. pp. 81–88. Retrieved May 10, 2023.

[NCAA2023-7] 2023 NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records (PDF). National Collegiate Athletic Association. 2023. Archived from the original on August 26, 2023. Retrieved August 26, 2023.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: unfit URL (link)

[Sagarin1998-8] Sagarin, Jeff (January 1999). "Jeff Sagarin's NCAA football ratings — Through games of Monday, January 4, 1999 (FINAL)". USA Today. Archived from the original on January 17, 1999. Retrieved May 5, 2024. No. 1 Tennessee 98.65 | No. 2 Ohio St. 98.12

[DMR_FinalSagarin1998-9] Hansen, Marc (January 6, 2024). Written at Tempe, Arizona. "The final word: The teams in the top five in the Sagarin college football rankings for 1998". The Des Moines Register. Des Moines, Iowa. Retrieved May 5, 2024. Tennessee (13–0) | Sagarin No. 1

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