Talk:Jane Pierce/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Unexpectedlydian (talk · contribs) 12:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'll be reviewing this article as part of the Women in Green October Editathon. I'll add comments in the table below shortly. Unexpectedlydian^♯4 talk^‽ 12:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again @Thebiguglyalien, this is a very good article and my comments are only pretty minor. The one comment I'm personally struggling with is the copyright status of the Jane Pierce coin (I've explained in criteria 6a); I saw you uploaded the image so I'm hoping you'll be able to help me with that. I'm putting the article on hold, do let me know if you have any questions. Unexpectedlydian^♯4 talk^‽ 14:55, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the bibliography, it's the only book where sources are drawn from disparate parts of the text. All other book sources only use information from a single page or a single chapter, rendering sfn unnecessary. Regarding the image of the coin, my understanding is that trademark is distinct from copyright in a way that allows its use. The trademark prevents you or I from starting our own line of coins called "United States Mint Uncirculated Coin Set", but (to my understanding) has no effect on the copyright of the image. Regarding all other concerns, I've edited the article to address them. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 18:00, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Thebiguglyalien Thank you for addressing these changes so swiftly and for your explanations. I've crossed off where the changes have been addressed. Happy to promote this to GA now, thanks for your work on this article :) Unexpectedlydian^♯4 talk^‽ 13:13, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Lead Franklin died of tuberculosis in 1869. This feels a bit out of place without also mentioning details of Jane's death, i.e. Franklin died of tuberculosis in 1869, six years after Jane, and was buried alongside her at Old North Cemetery. or something similar. Early life She was the youngest of three daughters and was followed by three brothers. Personal opinion, this sounds slightly confusing. Maybe change to She was the youngest of three daughters and had three younger brothers. Later life and death ~~Maybe use a convert template for 60 acres into m^2?~~
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lead sections Lead looks good. Layout General layout of article content works well. ~~See comment in 2a regarding the Bibliography section—not sure why Wallner 2004 is the only book in that section and which uses sfn.~~ Words to watch None identified. Fiction N/A List incorporation N/A
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Sources provided in the appropriate section of the article. ~~Not sure why Wallner 2004 is separately listed in the Bibliography section of the article, and uses an sfn template, when no other book sources are?~~ ~~Jane Appleton Pierce Lane Memorial Library (www.hampton.lib.nh.us) needs an archived link as the current link as showing as "Not found".~~ Looks like this source is now gone.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Source check Schneider, Dorothy; Schneider, Carl J. (2010). "Jane Means Appleton Pierce". First Ladies: A Biographical Dictionary Done Hendricks, Nancy (2015). "Jane Pierce". America's First Ladies: A Historical Encyclopedia and Primary Document Collection of the Remarkable Women of the White House: A Historical Encyclopedia and Primary Document Collection of the Remarkable Women of the White House Done Baker, Jean H. "Franklin Pierce: Life Before the Presidency" Done Jane Pierce". Miller Center Done "Biography of Jane Pierce". whitehouse.gov. ~~he briefly went away to serve as a general in the Mexican–American War Tiny point, but the source states he served as a brigadier. Are brigadier and general the same thing?~~ Arnold, Amanda (2017-07-12). "The First Ladies Who Brought the Occult to the White House" Done "First Lady Biography: Jane Pierce". National First Ladies' Library Done Watson, Robert P. (1999-01-01). "Ranking the presidential spouses". The Social Science Journal. 36 (1) Done Siena College and C-SPAN Announce the Rankings of the First Ladies of the United States (FLOTUS)" Done
	2c. it contains no original research.	Content it contains no original research.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Copyvio brings up nothing of concern. Spot-checks also brought up nothing of concern.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Content that the main aspects of Pierce's life are covered: biography, relationship to president, political beliefs, personal/family life.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Content that the article is focussed.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Article is presented neutrally.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	Recent edits have been copyedits and/or constructive.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Images are tagged with copyright status. The image of the 2010 commemorative coin is, according to the description page, an uncirculated coin. The U.S. Mint Intellectual Property Rights states that trademarks owned by the U.S. Mint include the United States Mint Uncirculated Coin Set®. Do you know if that includes the Jane Pierce commemorative coin?
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Not a GA requirement, but the images need alternative descriptions. I added some myself, feel free to change.
	7. Overall assessment.