Talk:James W. Crawford Jr.

Ancestor of James Crawford

Would the following edit be acceptable on this page? Heading possibly "Family history" As a descendant myself, I need to request permission.

Crawfords' ancestor was a Revolutionary War army officer, serving in the North Carolina Militia. His name was Captain (later Colonel) Robert Hicks, and he fought bravely at the Battle of Guilford Court House, on 15 March 1781. Mrs. Cicero W. Harris has this to say about his actions:

I think in common justice he, with another Granville commander, did enough at the battle of Guilford Court House to wipe out forever, the stain which the retreat of the North Carolina militia from that historic field, has thrown on the escutcheon of the State. When the militia turned and fled before the red-coats, Capt. Hicks stood firm and faced the enemy alone with his sword in one hand and the flag he had taken from the frightened ensign in the other, and fought single handed until the enemy were about to surround him, and his men had gone a considerable distance from him. Then, by a rapid movement, he escaped, and shared the dangers of the first Rebellion to the end. He was an uncompromising Whig, and his compatriots and fellow soldiers declared he never knew the meaning of the word fear.

Anne (talk) 19:06, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done Does not directly pertain to the subject of the article; seems like trivia for a distantly related family member. Spencer^T•C 06:41, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

So be it Spencer. However, to call this 'trivia' is insulting to an American. Those who pass the extraordinarily strict qualifying criteria, are tremendously proud to be a SAR (Sons of the American Revolution). Anne (talk) 11:02, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Arbil44 If this were an article about the subject who was in the American Revolution, then of course it would make sense to include that in the article. If that person meets notability criteria then I encourage you to create a draft article for that person. Has the subject of this article ever spoken publicly about his relative who fought in the American revolution? The reference provided does not mention the current article subject. Spencer^T•C 18:50, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Tbh, Spencer, it had never occurred to me to create an article for Robert Hicks. He was a militia officer who happened to have acted very bravely on, to my knowledge, one occasion. His only other claim to fame was to have buried a pot of gold, under a tree at the commencement of the revolution - died very unexpectedly after the revolution - failed to tell anyone the location of the pot of god - which was never found (presumably leaving his family short of money). This is also chronicled in the same Harris source. He did rise to the rank of Colonel, but other than that, there is little more to say. I've seen wp articles with less! There is another source to the first story [1] and [2]. However, were any effort on my part only lead to a AfD, then it is hardly worth my while. Anne (talk) 19:32, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Spencer, you having put the thought in my head, I’ve done as you suggested. However, I do not want to create an article, as follows, without approval. I know his dates are (1759-4 Sep 1829) but there is no reference to them in the article. Anne (talk) 23:52, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

It would probably be more useful to put this in a user sandbox (User:Arbil44/Sandbox) or a draft page, rather than here on the talk page. The other option would be going through the process here (Wikipedia:Articles for creation) which may better meet your needs. Spencer^T•C 00:09, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Spencer. I've put it in my Sandbox. However, I will need some assistance, I'm afraid, since it isn't quite right, and I struggle with the IT involved. I will now remove the draft, below.Anne (talk) 00:29, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok, it is now in (Wikipedia:Articles for creation). Nicely out of the way before Christmas. Anne (talk) 02:05, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

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