Talk:It's Hard to Have Hope

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Date	Process	Result
August 10, 2023	Peer review	Not reviewed
March 3, 2024	Good article nominee	Listed

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Feedback from New Page Review process

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Thank you for this well referenced article. I hope you continue to create others like it.

Schminnte (talk • contribs) 15:47, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 05:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Almost there. Ping me when done. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for reviewing this article! I've done the fixes as asked.

Small query: I've included an album rating from Terrorizer mag but as mentioned in article, Cherry used to work for the mag around the time of the album's writing. Should this be removed for being too close to the subject? Either way I'm not bothered as it was a last minute addition. Chchcheckit (talk) 12:47, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine; you're not providing any critical reception from them, which is a wise take. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know? If you fancy doing so, I always have plenty of GA nominees to review. Just look for the all-uppercase titles in the Television section. Reviews always appreciated.

Copy changes

Hyphenate "first-ever" and "higher-skilled"
culture of blaming the victims of revenge porn, and the shortcomings of UK laws in holding perpetrators accountable Unnecessary comma. See WP:CINS
Cherry said that the lyric refers to her health struggles in the original context of the song, but that she and the other members of Svalbard Remove comma
who Svalbard discovered should be whom
who Svalbard were originally in talks with try with whom Svalbard were originally in talks
Remove comma before "whilst remaining"
Consider reducing the Miura quote and saying more of it in our own words.

Sourcing and spot checks

4 (Metal Hammer): Y
- But things soon went awry. After a seven-year relationship, Liam and Serena broke up, putting a strain on the band. Then, both of them were stricken with severe health problems.
- A blistering, apocalyptic monster of black metal, post-rock and hardcore
- Feminazi?! sticks the middle finger up to those who compare people looking for equal rights to some of the worst people in history, inspired by a YouTube comment left on the band’s song Expect Equal Respect.
- But when Serena was 18, an incident at Wacken tarnished her love for heavy metal and she turned her back on the subculture. “I was watching Obituary and a group of guys surrounded me, forcibly grabbing my breasts and trying to shove their hands between my legs,” she says
11: influences of post-metal, post-hardcore, black metal, hardcore, and screamo all lie in their sound Y
27: Quote about abortion checks out and is correctly reproduced. Y
42: #29 ranking is correct.
46: The listing of a limited edition is correct. There is no song information. To what is that cited?

Earwig is flagging quotes, but in the Miura case the quote is just too long and needs trimming.

Images

Only image is album art with NFUR.

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