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Album sales

The figures of 30 / 40 million are just ridiculous. I'd be surprised if any one of Brown's solo albums has sold more than a million worldwide. Second Coming supposedly shifted around 2 million worldwide, the Roses debut is more of an enigma but according to the BPI http://www.bpi.co.uk/ it hasn't even gone double platinum (less than 600,000 copies sold in the UK) so we aren't talking mega millions here. At a guess I'd say he had sold under 10 million albums worldwide total - that is just a guess, but it's no better than the guess that was in the article before (30 / 40 million) and until there are some reliable sources it's misleading to include the 30 / 40 million figure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.17.226.51 (talk) 17:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Having kept an eye on all the Stone Roses articles for a while now, as far as I can tell there's a single, anonymous user on a dynamic IP address (87.102.x.x) who keeps adding these implausible album sales. At first I added {{fact}} tags to those claims and posted to the user's talk page requesting cites to back them up. However, he/she never responds, so now I'm just gonna delete them on sight. Without source info it doesn't make sense to leave these sorts of claims in the articles. It's notable, however, that the numbers seems to change more or less randomly: if I delete a claim that the band sold 40 million albums the same user will come back a few days later and reinsert the claim, but it'll be 30 million, or something else. It seems very much as if the figures are just being invented. -- Hux (talk) 21:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Monkey Boy

I deleted the addition of "Monkey Boy" to the picture caption by User:217.65.149.50 as part of a string of vandalism by that user, but I'm not entirely sure it's as vandalistic as his other edits, given the whole "King Monkey", "unfinished monkey business" stuff. Regardless, it's probably POV to use it unadorned in the caption, though. --Bth 09:40, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Personal Life

I'd like to see some sources for this. I have infact met Ian Brown down the Lleyn Peninsular in Wales, and he said he lived locally, and I may be wrong but I seem to remember him having more than one child with him

Ian had a holiday house in Anglesey until Autumn 2002 when it was well documented in the mass media that the locals were kicking up a stink about the fact that Ian Brown living there had pushed the property price up and put it financially out of the reach of locals. They even dressed in monkey costumes to protest.

Ian has three sons, although two of them Frankie and Casey are from a past relationship. His youngest son, Emilio is from his relationship to wife Fabiola Queiroz Brown. User: Reni's Drums February 10th 2007, 20.04pm

"In 1999 he threatens a Stewardess in an airplane, wasn´t willing to fasten his seat belts, and was rampaging. The called policemen said that he is not able to put Brown into prison, as he had seen him with the Stone Roses live on stage a few years ago. So some of his collegues did that job." What?

I didn't any of these edits, but the person who did has got three quarters of it right. It was in fact the prison warden who couldn't put Ian in prison after he had been convicted in a court of law. This was mentioned in the book "The Stone Roses and the Resurrection of British Pop" by John Robb. Any more queries feel free to use my talk page. User: Reni's Drums February 10th 2007, 19.58pm

Contradiction

Where was Brown born, the fact box says Warrington, England, but the article also says "Brown was born on the 20th of February 1963 on Ancoats, Central Manchester...". Which is it? Thanks DannyM 21:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

It is generally accepted that Ian was born in Warrington and moved to Ancoats then Timperley in his youth where he met John Squire. This is referenced in the book "The Stone Roses and the Resurrection of British Pop" by John Robb. Any more queries feel free to use my talk page.user: Reni's Drums 10 February 2007, 20.00

Britpop

Removed reference to Stone Roses being Britpop - this term wasn't coined til the mid 90s, by which time the Stone Roses were defunct as a serious going concern. The movement they were most clearly associated with was Madchester.--Leau 22:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

The only refernce Britpop could have would be later britpop bands saying that they were influenced by the Roses; Noel Gallagher, I think, has said this about both himself and Oasis.(80.193.99.43 (talk) 11:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC))

Citations

1, Ian Brown admitted in a 2001 interview with Tony Wilson that Geno Washington encouraged him to be a singer at Brown's then girlfriend's 21st birthday party

2, Ian sold out the M.E.N. in December 2005. I know because I was there and it was jam packed.

3, The Reading Festival Gig in August 1996 is most certainly infamous because of a terrible performance from the latter day Roses, including Brown

4, I thought Ian Brown's views on the Monarchy were made known in the track "Elizabeth My Dear". However, the comment that needs a citation was in a magazine interview and was later repeated in the book "Stone Roses and the Resurrection of British Pop" by John Robb. I think it is in the chapter entitled 1990

5, It was mentioned again in the book "Stone Roses and the Resurrection of British Pop" that Brown has changed religions to take advantage of better food when he was in prison.

6, It was mentioned in the NME and other music magazines and media at the time, 2003, that Brown only took the standard £200 extras fee for his appearance in the second Harry Potter film

by Reni's Drums (talk • contribs) 18:13, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Most of that stuff is indeed probably true. It just needs verification. Also, it is said that he was a fairly heavy drinker prior to the air hostess incident, but since then he has been teetotal. I read in in The Guardian.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 21:07, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually maybe he wasn't that much of a drinker at all - [1]--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 21:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

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Links

I don't know who it is (obviously) who keeps removing my website links from the external links pages of every page relating to The Stone Roses but if you could stop it... then that'd be coool. ta.

TheJSU 16:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

relationship with john squire rewording

i'm not sure if this is down to me not following properly, but in this line; "Squire went as far as branding Brown as a "tuneless knob", although this was taken out of context by some members of the press as it referred to Brown during the recording of the Stone Roses' second album, Second Coming due to his large in-take of cannabis."

I'm not entirely sure which of the two is being referred to as taking the cannabis, it may need rewording, if any others feel the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.23.56.12 (talk) 23:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Oxegen Image

This article may be enhanced by one of my images located at Oxegen 2008. He's on stage clutching a microphone very tightly. --➨♀♂Candlewicke _S^T _# :) 12:11, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

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