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Reviewer: Pollosito (talk ยท contribs) 23:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section):
- b (inline citations to reliable sources):
- c (OR):
- d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- (source spot-check done):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
- b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Hi, AskeeaeWiki. I'll be reviewing this article in a few days. Before we start, I want you to keep in mind that I am extremely nervous, because this will be the first GA review I have done. Additionally, some often review articles by article elements (verifiability, prose, wikified, etc.); However, I will look at all of this by sections of the article, because that makes it easier for me (I hope you understand, because I think that was not clear). Best, Santi (talk) 23:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito Hey, it's all good. I was insanely nervous when reviewing my first article. This article was the first one I've worked a lot on, so there will be flaws, but I am ready to listen to what you have to say! Take your time, there's no time limit on when a review should end. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 00:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Background and release
[edit]- The first paragraph was the only thing that convinced me about the section, I really like the prose, so I don't see any problems with it for now. However, it seems to me that reference 4 is redundant, because the same thing is told in the Vogue article.
- Done Fixed, removed redundant reference
- The reference 6 only talks about the release of Starboy, it never talks about the title track, neither in the original nor in the archive.
- Done Added reference to support.
- In the third paragraph, according to the reference, "I Feel It Coming" and "Party Monster" were apparently announced on November 16, not 17. Additionally, I suggest that you strengthen the verifiability of these claims a little, regarding when the singles were actually announced.
- Done Used the Weeknd's tweet to support
- I suggest that you complement the fourth paragraph with the references that are present in the Release history section. I recommend that you rely on Anti-Hero (song) for the prose.
- Done I used the release history to expand the 4th paragraph.
- Speaking of complementing the release of "I Feel It Coming" as a single, the chart in the aforementioned section presents that it was also released on November 18 as a digital single, but its reference is dead. Is it possible to replace it so as not to have unforeseen problems with verifiability?
- Done Found a reference that is not dead
- I see that both the reviewer and the nominator are active, so the comments have been addressed immediately and therefore the section is better seen. However, I will make observations about these changes:
- Regarding the simultaneous release of the two singles, it was already clear to me that Amy Phillips wrote the article in Pitchfork on the same day that the Weeknd announced them. I suggest not using primary source from social media. With the Vibe reference (in the Release History section) it is more than enough to make the situation clearer.
- Done Removed tweet
- I'm still not convinced by the prose of the fourth (now third) paragraph. "After its initial release as a non-radio single, "I Feel It Coming" was pushed as Starboy's second radio single by XO and Republic Records, being sent to contemporary hit radio in the United Kingdom on November 24, 2016" => "On November 17, 2016, it was released for download in Apple Music through XO and Republic Records. The song was pushed as Starboy's second radio single by XO and Republic, being sent to contemporary hit radio in the United Kingdom on November 24" For Apple Music, you should reuse the Vibe reference. For "Starboy's second radio single", use a reliable source that makes this observation. Not primary source.
- Done Fixed wording, removed second radio single information as I don't think it's really relevant
- The section is almost ready. Now I will focus on the references. References 1, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9 are missing the names of the authors, which must be included under the "last" and "first" parameters. References 6, 7 and 9 should be archived. Reference 11 needs to be restructured (change the ref code).
Music and recording
[edit]- The references 14, 16, 17, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25 and 26 should be archived.
- Done
- The references 15, 19, 22 and 23 need authorship.
- Done
- For the reference 16, you can remove the "website" parameter, which has "tingen.org", which is not necessary because it's a personal page that bears the name of its author. Likewise, could it be replaced with another reference that confirms the same thing that that line says? If not, don't worry, that is my insecurity, but it's an article that has already been presented in the Australian and German press, in addition to being a secondary source and written by a professional editor and musician.
- Not done For now, see comments
- In the "website" parameter in the reference 21, replace "www.musicnotes.com" to "Musicnotes".
- Done
- Between the text and reference 23 there is an uncomfortable space. Delete it, please.
- Done
- In the "website" parameter in the reference 24, replace "k104.7.com" to "WJBR".
- Done
- In the "website" parameter in the reference 26, the name of Revolt (TV network) is with a capital "n". Change to lower case for correct linking. Santi (talk) 00:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done
- "In an interview with Zane Lowe, the Weeknd talked about recording with Daft Punk, stating that he had first met one half of Daft Punk, Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo" => "In an interview with Zane Lowe, the Weeknd talked about recording with Daft Punk, stating that he had first met one half of them, Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo", to avoid repeating the subject of the sentence too many times.
- Done
- "He told Lowe that Daft Punk wanted his vocals to sound as "authentic and retro" as possible, with the duo directing him through the process" => "He told Lowe that the duo wanted his vocals to sound as "authentic and retro" as possible, with them directing him through the process", for the same.
- Done
- "In the interview with Variety, the Weeknd stated that him and Daft Punk finished the two songs in four days" => "In the interview with Variety, the Weeknd stated that him and the duo finished the two songs in four days", for the same, again.
- Done
- "The song's sheet music, published by Songs Music Publishing at Musicnotes.com" Delete ".com".
- Done
- Link "beats per minute"
- Done
- "The song's first verse opens with the Weeknd asking his lover to tell him what they "really like", in which Complex's Ross Scarano describes as being sung in a way that doesn't sound like the Weeknd will insist the listener "really like[s] anonymous sex in a cramped bathroom stall followed by a crying jag."" => "Complex's Ross Scarano described the verse "Tell me what you really like" as being sung in a way that "doesn't sound like he's about to insist that you really like anonymous sex in a cramped bathroom stall followed by a crying jag." The initial phrase tends to be a primary source due to a close interpretation, but one that moved away a little.
- Done
- "The pre-chorus has the Weeknd persuade his lover to trust him" => "The pre-chorus has the Weeknd persuade his lover to believe he's the right."
- Done
- "to a heartbroken lover, who the Weeknd attempts to persuade into trying him out" => "to a heartbroken woman, who needs to be persuaded to try him out" I think that's more convenient due to repetition of the subject, and because the lover's a woman, it's not a random lover.
- Done
- "He further reassures his lover, telling them" => "He further tries to reassure his lover, telling her" for the same.
- Done
Critical reception
[edit]- This section is mostly passed. Excellent work for the section, it has been the best you have had. However, " ""I Feel It Coming," is a gem of Ibiza disco love " => " "'I Feel It Coming', is a gem of Ibiza disco love ". Archive and add authorship of the respective references that lack either (or both) in this section.
- Done
Commercial performance
[edit]- This section will need to be significantly rewritten. However, calm down! I will guide you through the process after analyzing the section a little more and comparing with other GAs:
- Let's start with the simplest. "Following its initial release as a promotional single, the song entered the Billboard Hot 100 at number 48 on the chart dated December 10, 2016, before rising to number 22 the following week after the release of Starboy." => "In the United States, "I Feel It Coming" jumped 26 spots to number 22 on at the Billboard Hot 100 after the release of Starboy, due to an increase to 11.2 million streams in the country."
- Done
- "After its official release as a single, the song reached its number four peak on the chart dated April 15, 2017. The song spent 26 weeks on the chart." => "Later, it climbed to number four on April 15, 2017, and spent 26 weeks on the chart."
- Done
- ""I Feel It Coming" was certified 6ร platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America on April 5, 2022, for selling six million units in the United States." => "The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) certified the single 6ร Platinum, which denotes six million units based on sales and track-equivalent on-demand streams."
- Done
- Link "6x Platinum" to RIAA certification.
- Done
- I suggest you add this source to verify "Later, it climbed to number four on the chart dated April 15, 2017, and spent 26 weeks on the chart." more safely. Don't delete the other source that's there, just add additionally.
- Done
- Delete "Elsewhere, the song reached the top of the chart in France, and reached the top ten in other countries including Australia, Canada, Ireland, and the United Kingdom." which is the part that needs restructuring the most.
- Done
- Add this: ""I Feel It Coming" peaked within the top five in national record charts, number two in Israel, Portugal, number three in Belgium (Flanders and Wallonia), Canada, Poland, number four in Argentina, Hungary, the Netherlands, and number five in Czech Republic, Norway, Slovakia and Sweden. Elsewhere, it topped the chart in France and peaked within the top ten in Australia (7), New Zealand (7), and the United Kingdom (9). It received a platinum certification in New Zealand, multi-platinum in Australia (8x Platinum), Canada (5x Platinum), the UK (2x Platinum), and diamond in France." Reuse references for each position and certification mentioned. In case there is an error in the process, you simply change the names of the references in the code each time they were used.
- Done
- Finally, link "certification" to Music recording certification and put the new paragraph above that of the United States.
- Done
Music video
[edit]Development
[edit]- I cannot find in reference 61 that mentions the date of recording the video. Additionally, you can reference the video on YouTube for release; look at I Can See You to see the way it should be put.
- Done
- Is there more information about critical reception of the video? If not, there is no problem.
- Not done From what I've observed, the sources simply have a summarized version of the video's synopsis.
Sypnosis
[edit]- Archiving and authorship of the sources (the 64 is archived)
- Done
Live performances
[edit]- I moved ahead of the section, even though we haven't finished the previous ones. Sorry for getting ahead of myself, but I'm consulting regarding this section and I don't want to lose the sources I found and they will be very useful for what I'm going to tell you. It would be convenient if you also added that the song was part of the setlist of Starboy: Legend of the Fall Tour and After Hours til Dawn Tour with these references: 1, 2. For the latter, you must also include the "Language" parameter and add "es-MX" to it
- Done
- I would like to know if the live performances present in the section have been the only ones that you have been able to verify or if there are more. If it's the latter, I suggest you search Concert Archives, search for "The Weeknd" and all of his performances will appear there, but you will have to look for references that confirm each of them. Concerts that could not be verified simply skip them. It is the same strategy that I used for my current GANs.
- Done, i'm currently adding the final source for the Weeknd Asia Tour, I have found everything. If anything more does come up I will add it.
- Hey, this source will help you confirm the song's performance at the 2022 Coachella Festival.
- Done
- Also this to confirm the performance at Global Citizen Festival 2018. Tecate Live Out 2018 has the potential to be verified, but I couldn't because all the references are in Spanish. Try searching on it to find a source in English. For Life is Beautiful Festival, I could only find one that could confirm the submission, but it won't let me in because it supposedly has the potential for "cyber attacks." Also this to confirm the Mawazine Festival 2018. Finally, that's it! I already managed to get all the gigs that could be verified, so, job done.
- Done, couldn't find anything on Tecate Live Out sadly.
- Regarding the Asia Tour setlist, the reference speaks only to the Singaporean experience of the tour. Instead, I only found references that referred to specific concerts on the tour, but never in general. Therefore, we would have to do the same thing I did in Classy 101. Instead of risking a mistake by taking a single reference that does not refer to a general setlist, we must put a note that says "Attributed to such" and reference the corresponding ones. I will look for those references that I mentioned to save you work.
- Done
- The description of his show at Grammy 2017 can be added, based on source. It is a common practice of GAs on songs, especially if the singers are women.
- Done
- Authorship for ref 68.
- Done
Credits and personnel
[edit]- Replace the reference 2 to this: <ref name="Starboy - Republic Records">{{cite AV media notes |title=Starboy |type=liner notes |author=[[The Weeknd]] |year=2016 |publisher=[[Republic Records]]}}</ref>.
- Done
Charts
[edit]- Passed.
Certifications
[edit]- Passed.
Release history
[edit]- Passed.
Infobox
[edit]- Delete references. It is not necessary to reuse them in the infobox, because everything there is already covered by the article body.
- Done
Files
[edit]- Passed. You can add alt text in all images, it is totally optional, not required.
- Done
Additional
[edit]- Did the song never receive awards and nominations? I'm sorry for asking until now, but I just remembered.
- Done Yes, it received nominations and some awards, which is something I'll have to work on soon. I am working on it now.
Comments
[edit]- I want to mention that, to be clear (or at least try to be) about the GA criteria, I analyze more the most recent articles that have that status (especially Taylor Swift) than the criteria themselves. I hope this doesn't affect the process at all. Santi (talk) 23:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I realized it just when reviewing the article after writing on this page LOL. Well, I will make the missing changes in this section to move on to the other and not be left in "development hell" LOL. Santi (talk) 13:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- As I'm in the process of archiving, the Australian press doesn't present the information for I Feel it Coming, but I believe the German site presents it in Deustch. Would you like me to use that website? I'm perfectly okay with it. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 00:37, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sound & Recording (German press) does talk about "I Feel It Coming" exactly as the reference in the article talks about. If you want (I repeat, it is not mandatory due to what was mentioned above), you can replace it without problems. Pollosito (talk) 00:45, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- For now, I'll keep the Tingen reference. If a problem with it comes, I'll remove it. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 00:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sound & Recording (German press) does talk about "I Feel It Coming" exactly as the reference in the article talks about. If you want (I repeat, it is not mandatory due to what was mentioned above), you can replace it without problems. Pollosito (talk) 00:45, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- I will start work on this! There are a lot of performances of "I Feel It Coming", he's basically performed it at every one of his shows since its release. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 19:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding Tecate Live Out 2018, neither the references in Spanish mention the presence of the song nor the setlist. So, performance discarded. Santi (talk) 20:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- About to reveal that I'm still an amateur at Wikipedia, but I don't know how to reuse chart references. Most, if not all of these use templates, so I need some guidance with this section. Apologies. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 23:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- OK. And wouldn't you have a problem if I did it, or better should I explain it to you? Santi (talk) 23:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please explain it to me. Hopefully this way I don't run into this problem again in future GAs. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 23:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'll start with the easy part. References that have a conventional structure (without templates) are used as usual (those from Monitor Latino should follow these conditions, so you know). However, as you realize, there are those that do not follow convention, but rather use templates. So, what you have to do is add the "refname" parameter to the last part of the template in those that you are going to use and do not have this parameter yet. In that parameter, you are going to add the name. In this case, for the charts you will write, for example, "FranceChart", and for the certifications, for example, "FranceCert". With this, you go to the text to modify (which is the "Commercial performance" section) and you are going to write in source edit "<ref name="(the ref's name to use)" />" and that's it. I hope it is clear, because sometimes I'm terrible at those specific details. Santi (talk) 23:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- One thing to clarify: you cannot repeat refnames. Santi (talk) 23:24, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I attempted, and I failed horrendously. Would you mind kind of just demonstrating one example? So I get it? ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 23:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. For example, this template is initially like this: {{single chart|Australia|7|artist=The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk|song=I Feel It Coming|rowheader=true|access-date=January 7, 2017}}. Then, with the added parameter it would be like this: {{single chart|Australia|7|artist=The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk|song=I Feel It Coming|rowheader=true|access-date=January 7, 2017|refname=AustraliaChart}}. Now let's go to the text: peaked within the top ten in Australia (7),. Finally we do this: peaked within the top ten in Australia (7),<ref name="AustraliaChart" />. That's it. Santi (talk) 23:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I attempted, and I failed horrendously. Would you mind kind of just demonstrating one example? So I get it? ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 23:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- One thing to clarify: you cannot repeat refnames. Santi (talk) 23:24, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'll start with the easy part. References that have a conventional structure (without templates) are used as usual (those from Monitor Latino should follow these conditions, so you know). However, as you realize, there are those that do not follow convention, but rather use templates. So, what you have to do is add the "refname" parameter to the last part of the template in those that you are going to use and do not have this parameter yet. In that parameter, you are going to add the name. In this case, for the charts you will write, for example, "FranceChart", and for the certifications, for example, "FranceCert". With this, you go to the text to modify (which is the "Commercial performance" section) and you are going to write in source edit "<ref name="(the ref's name to use)" />" and that's it. I hope it is clear, because sometimes I'm terrible at those specific details. Santi (talk) 23:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please explain it to me. Hopefully this way I don't run into this problem again in future GAs. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 23:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- OK. And wouldn't you have a problem if I did it, or better should I explain it to you? Santi (talk) 23:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Well, the source stated "The Space Age tale of a doomed love that turns to stone was shot in a whirlwind one-day blitz on a Los Angeles soundstage just before Christmas and held under wraps until Friday", which probably isn't an explicit statement of December 2016. Nevertheless, I can change it if you'd like. I'll source the video also. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 00:50, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- What is promised is a debt. Here are the references I told you about: This one. Sorry, I thought there were more, but I remembered that there is only one. Santi (talk) 01:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito Don't worry, it'd okay! I found this article, but it can be challenged, since it mentions "Die for You", but that song was not performed between 2018-2021 ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 01:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @AskeeaeWiki: Thank you! Then, let's start it. Santi (talk) 01:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito Don't worry, it'd okay! I found this article, but it can be challenged, since it mentions "Die for You", but that song was not performed between 2018-2021 ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 01:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @AskeeaeWiki: If you allow me, I'm going to make some changes to the prose to follow at the end to approve this article once and for all. I'm probably going to get scolded for putting aside my tasks for a while LOL. Santi (talk) 02:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito It's all good. The end of the review is near. I Feel It Coming. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 02:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to take a break from this, because I'm going to sleep, so this article will be On hold until the accolades table is complete, because, according to the list of awards and nominations received by the artist, there are two missing, and maybe more. Santi (talk) 04:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito All good, I'll continue work until I am very certain all accolades have been found. Rest up, friend. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 04:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I woke up a long time ago, but until now I was able to log in to review your changes, plus I am on a cell phone, which makes it a little difficult for me LOL. Thanks for posting the table. I'll make a few small adjustments to that table and lead to approve this article. Santi (talk) 22:13, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito All good! I'm working on some other articles for GA currently, keeping myself busy and hopefully improving my writing abilities on the app. ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 22:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Congratulations! This article is now Passed as GA. I encourage you to continue working hard and improve your skills more and more, it is worth it. See you next! Santi (talk) 23:11, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito Thank you so much, you're an amazing reviewer. I hope we work together again soon. I'll take a bit of a rest because I am planning on going for FA someday. Thank you! ๐ฎ๐ช๐ค๐ฉ๐ข๐ฆ๐ญ'๐ด ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ, 23:12, 4 April 2024 (UTC)