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Time Specification Request

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Late 2022 can mean December, 2022 or October 2022. Instead of bering ambiguous of time, Please specify when IOS 16 will come out please.

2601:40:3:1E24:D58A:2197:5BB:9E13 (talk) 17:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apple says "Coming this fall" on https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-16-preview/; they don't specify a month.
On the other hand, they don't say that on https://www.apple.com/au/ios/ios-16-preview/, perhaps because "this fall" - or "this autumn" - is right now in Australia, with winter coming up. The same applies to https://www.apple.com/br/ios/ios-16-preview/ and https://www.apple.com/nz/ios/ios-16-preview/, and https://www.apple.com/nz/ios/ios-16-preview/, for example.
So the best answer is "some date between 22 September 2022 and 20 December 2022". Guy Harris (talk) 18:48, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Update history table

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What do people think of imitating the macOS Ventura page, and simply linking to Apple's comprehensive release notes & security update notes? I think this content should be included as prose, not in a table (which makes this material harder to read for mobile & blind users). DFlhb (talk) 16:19, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An alternative option may be to keep the release notes for minor updates in the table. We would then only remove the release notes for the initial version, which is redundant with the rest of the article. DFlhb (talk) 15:17, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussing better ways to format this content

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I moved the version history to the bottom, and replaced its contents with links; Apple's site will always be more detailed (for many, not all changes), and people can just go there to see what's up. Straight links, but Apple just archives these pages rather than deleting them (and anyway, we can ctrl+F and replace them all with an archive.org link easily if needed).

I think we should come up with a more consistent way to organize this information. In iOS 15, for example, we mix prose and lists, but use a tons of headers, and I worry some readers might find it disorganized; here, we mainly use lists, which is uncommon for Wikipedia.

I think there's a common problem with all our articles for of Apple's OSes, since they switched to the yearly release cadence. The changes are both minor and wide-ranging, so if we formatted content in prose, like Windows XP, the amount of minor details may make the article less readable. Or we could trim details, but then the article would be less comprehensive. Right now, I worry that these articles are more like changelogs than encyclopedic entries.

What do people think would be the best way to structure these articles? DFlhb (talk) 14:19, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Link to my edit, later reverted. DFlhb (talk) 01:14, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DFlhb: I notified to IP user who reverted your contribution.[1] Hajoon0102 💬 03:34, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removed feature

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AssistiveTouch icon floating on Home screen or Lock screen > Device > Hold down "Lock screen" for 3 seconds no longer works. In iOS 15, this prompts the user to "Slide to power off". Luigi.a.cruz (talk) 05:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment is ambiguous and does not make sense. Please specify/simplify what you are talking about. Mseingth2133444 (Did I mess up? Let me know here | Thank me here) 02:23, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note also that if a page doesn't say something that you think it should say, often the best way to have it say that is to change it to say that, rather than to just say "this page should say X, but doesn't" on the talk page. Guy Harris (talk) 11:03, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]