Talk:History of the New York Giants (1994–present)

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Date	Process	Result
March 27, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed
March 31, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
November 20, 2009	Good article reassessment	Delisted
October 28, 2010	Good article nominee	Listed
November 26, 2010	Good topic candidate	Promoted
Current status: Good article

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GA review

More great work here, I'd like to see a consistent use of ref templates from WP:CITET on all of these articles. I again made a few edits, most notably to the lead sentence. PhoenixTwo 03:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I'm not a fan of the templates, I worked with User:SandyGeorgia during the Michael Jordan FAC to format refs consistently and used the same style here. This style passes all WP:CITE criteria. I'll try to keep working on the copyediting—I want to use different wording in each article so it's not redundant if you read all the articles, so that will take more work. Thanks for the reviews! Quadzilla99 03:34, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect pointing to this article

I'm intending to redirect The Snowball Game here. PhilKnight (talk) 19:10, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA reassessment

Hey, I'm reassessing this article for GA sweeps. Unfortunately, this article has definitely fallen bwloe G standards. Here are some issues:

Refs #20 and 37 are dead links.
2007 in unreferenced.
2008 is only one sentence and 2009 is nonexistent.

Since there's really no one to work on it, I'm delisting it as a GA. It can always be fixed and renominated. Wizardman 15:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA re-nom

Ok, this article atrophied while I was gone but I think I restored it to GA status. Let's see how it goes. Quadzilla99 (talk) 10:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:History of the New York Giants (1994–present)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 03:41, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since I delisted the article earlier, I'll re-review it to make sure it still holds up to GA status. The review will come within a couple days. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 03:41, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the issues I found:

Two deadlinks: [1]
"With the retirement of two of their most important figures of the 1980s and early 1990s after the 1993 season, namely Phil Simms and Lawrence Taylor," since you say retirement of two stars, the "namely" isn't necessary.
"and early 1990s both retired." comma before both.
"victory over the Cowboys at Giants Stadium" while linked below, the Dallas Cowboys should instead be written out and linked here, since it's the first mention.
", and linebackers Jessie Armstead and Michael Brooks." Brooks can be linked, I would think he has an article.
"losing even more players to "salary cap free agency"" I'm a little confused as to why that's quoted.
"After having only one playoff appearance in 4 seasons," write out four.
"The Giants then won their next 5 games in a row." same as above.
"with a young Danny Kanell." link. also, maybe theer's a better word then young; was he a rookie perhaps?
"Eastern Division for the first time" NFC East Division might be clearer.
"Kent Graham. However, neither quarterback provided Pro Bowl caliber play, although Graham led the Giants to a 5-1 finish " link Kent, and the however at the start of the sentence isn't needed.
"The conventional wisdom was that Fassel needed to have a strong year and a playoff appearance to retain his job." I'd like to see a cite for this.
"The Giants' big draft acquisition" link to the 2000 draft.
"After back–to–back November losses at home against St. Louis and Detroit dropped them to 7–4" comma at end

For now I'm going to stop here and wait until all this has been taken care of, then I'll review the rest of the article. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 00:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the rest:

"The 2002 season saw the arrival of tight end Jeremy Shockey from the University of Miami" comma after miami.
Link 49ers
"and with 4 minutes left" write out 4. There are a couple more situations like this in the rest of the article.

I fixed these, but when I did Jordan at FAC I was able to keep single digit numbers in numeral form, after showing that sports articles written by reporters usually use numerals for single digit numbers. Minor stuff though. Quadzilla99 (talk) 22:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Main article: Rivers-Manning trade" can be removed, it redirects to the draft.

Ah, that used to be an article, and a pretty interesting one iirc. Guess the contents were thrown in the waste basket and merged. Since I don't see any of it in the draft article. Quadzilla99 (talk) 21:31, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"When the trade was announced, the crowd in attendance at the draft (which was held in New York) cheered loudly." should be cited.
"Top performers on the season included Tiki Barber who established a personal career high in rushing yardage with 1,518 yards and also contributed 52 catches and 15 touchdowns" a couple commas needed here.
"which had been set by Gene Roberts on November 12, 1950." roberts can be linked
"During the season it was also announced that the New York Giants, New York Jets and the New Jersey Sports and Exhibition Authority had reached an agreement where both teams will work together to build a new stadium adjacent to the current Giants Stadium." any specific date? should also be cited.
"Defensively the team struggled all season long with pass defense (28th in the league) and with gaining a consistent pass rush." cite
"The Giants became the third NFL franchise to win at least 600 games when they defeated the Atlanta Falcons on Monday Night Football 31-10. " cite
"Main article: 2007 New York Giants season Main article: Super Bowl XLII" can be joined together like the three seasons are below.

In all of the history articles I've generally given Super Bowl seasons their own section, because of their historical importance. Quadzilla99 (talk) 21:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I did merge the 2004-06 seasons though. Quadzilla99 (talk) 22:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"The Giants' week eight road game against the Miami Dolphins on October 28 in London's Wembley Stadium was the NFL first regular-season game to be played outside of North America.[47] The Giants defeated the Dolphins, 13-10." these sentences can probably be combined.
"The Giants won 11 out for their first twelve games before stumbling to lose 4 of their final five including a 23-11 loss to the Eagles in the NFC Divisional Round." here 12 can just be in number form. the 4 and 5 could go either way here.
"The Giants nonetheless remained in the playoff picture until being crushed by the Panthers in Week 16 and ended the year with an 8-8 record after another overwhelming defeat in Minnesota" scores? should be added in if adjectives like that are going to be used.

These previous two points (the numbers and the informal weasel words) I must have missed when I copy-edited the new stuff that was added since I left. Quadzilla99 (talk) 22:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Titans CB Cortland Finnegan" spell out cornerback, link Finnegan/Diehl

I'll put the article on hold and pass it when the issues are addressed. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 01:19, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will keep the article on hold until November 1. Should the issues still not be addressed, I will fail the GAN. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:22, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything looks good now, so I'll pass the article as a GA. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 00:25, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:

There is uncited text throughout the article.
There are orange banners asking for updates of the latest seasons. These need to be resolved.

Is anyone interested in updating this article, or should it go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 21:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

History of the New York Giants (1994–present)

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Result pending

This article has several uncited passages, including entire paragraphs, and several "update needed" orange banners throughout the article. Z1720 (talk) 01:06, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to work on this if I have time. I am the primary contributor, but am less active now. AaronY (talk) 16:10, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]