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I admit this is an odd criticism to level against any article in Wikipedia, but IMHO it is too long. Perhaps I think that because it needs to be more tightly organized. The lead goes into far more detail than needed. Some sections -- such as the archeological account of Roman Carmona -- are perhaps better split off into their own articles, & a summary left behind. On the other hand, this article appears to be quite thorough & packed with lots of information. Nevertheless, with some editorial work, it could become a Featured Article. -- llywrch (talk) 19:40, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As the editor who wrote the article, I appreciate your input. I am aware that the lede is exceptionally long, but I really don't see how one can summarize the more than 2200-year history of a place in four short paragraphs, the suggested length, I believe. It's also true that some of the information could be spun off into separate articles, but I would hate to see that happen. This article, which would be the main article for the subject, gets an average of maybe five views per day—any subsidiary articles would surely get fewer.
May I say that the featured article process, and the barebones streamlining that often results, can be dispiriting for content creators like me, who find their own process come to nought. Someone can decide to bring an article to "featured" status, and get a gold star, so to speak, for their often minimal work, compared to my labors of translating the article from Spanish WP that this one is based on, plus finding sources and images, plus the effort of creating new sourced content. That happened with another article that I did almost all the work on, and it was a disturbing to see someone else get the "glory" (not in my book;-) for taking my work to "good" status.
It seems to me that the whole ethos of some editors who do that is a bit predatory and the process of elevating articles that way is itself rather cheesy. Carlstak (talk) 02:06, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
