Talk:Her Majesty (song)

Her Majesty (song) is currently a Songs good article nominee. Nominated by BernaBotto (talk) at 21:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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Short description: Hidden track on the album Abbey Road

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"An immortal closer to the LP"? WTF does that mean? 66.159.79.3 03:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Record Sleeve

The photo that I guess is a record sleeve for this track (though I cannot imagine that it was ever released separately) shows a photo of Queen Elizabeth II with her eyes scratched out. It reminds me of the sleeve for the Sex Pistols song "God Save the Queen" where the Queen's eyes and mouth are covered with text. Is there some rule in the UK that the Queen's portrait cannot be presented in whole except in an official capacity, or something? Or was one just copying the other? Just curious. Shocking Blue (talk) 15:55, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the eight-year-late reply. The image that you're talking about is not associated with the Beatles' version of the song, but a much-later reworking of the song by Chumbawamba. Their version was critical of the Queen and the royal family (example lyrics include "Her majesty's living in a land of curtsies // a world of bluish blood and Nazis"), and the scratched-out-eyes cover to the single reflects their attitude. You can see the cover and more information about the single at https://www.discogs.com/release/2372218-Chumbawamba-Her-Majesty. --Heath 216.30.158.37 (talk) 02:30, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Beatles songs that mention the Queen

There is a lot of emphasis in the article on the claim that "Her Majesty" is one of the three Beatles songs to mention the Queen, next to "Penny Lane" and "Mean Mr. Mustard". In "For You Blue", however, Lennon mentions "Queen says no to pot-smoking FBI member". I have no idea why my edit on this was reverted by User:Binksternet ? CBJH (talk) 19:25, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I was here earlier was because of this disruptive edit which removed the "music hall" genre conclusion from Walter Everett, published by Oxford in The Beatles As Musicians: Revolver Through the Anthology. I was not trying to get rid of your Queen thing.

But now that I look at it, that whole Queen thing appears to be a violation of WP:No original research, so I'm taking all of it out. Binksternet (talk) 20:37, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GAN nomination

Hi BernaBotto. I'm sure you mean well but I highly suggest you withdraw this GAN, as it is nowhere near ready for that and would be a quick fail. Here's why:

A lack of reliable written sources; the Beatles are the most written-about band in history and there's only one book referenced.
One source this one is sourced four separate times.
The Beatles Bible is a fan site and is considered unreliable
The AllMusic source isn't sourced properly
One sentence isn't sourced at all (the last one in alternate positions, which itself is an odd sub-heading)
A lack of basic grammar: ""Her Majesty" is the shorter Beatles' song." and "In July 2 of 1969"
The article itself lacks critical reception to the song itself

These are just the glimpses I'm seeing. Again, I'm sure you mean well, but I would highly suggest asking for other editors ' input first. Although Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles isn't as active as it once was, there is still plenty of info there that could help you for sourcing, or post on the talk page and a few people (such as myself) would be happy to comment. I also noticed you nominated Maxwell's Silver Hammer for FAC when that article isn't ready yet either. Again, I would retrieve input from other editors before nominating things, especially at FAC, where the reviewers are much less lenient and forgiving. – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 19:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Zmbro: Thx for the advising, as I said in other FAN, I'm really not used to edit here in enwiki, so sorry for my mistakes. About "The Beatles Bible", it is reliable, and wdym about the AllMusic source? And about the critical reception, is the shortest and probably the least known Beatles' song,there isn't a lot to say about it. Peer reviews are a little bit slow, there're June stuff on it. Again, so sorry for my mistakes and thanks for helping. BernaBotto (talk) 23:24, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other corrections are

Done. BernaBotto (talk) 23:37, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They unfortunately are not done. Critical reception is vital to every music article. Saying "the shortest and probably the least known Beatles' song,there isn't a lot to say about it" is just plain wrong. This is a Beatles song. It does not matter how short it is. Literally anything the Beatles did, someone will care. If "Carnival of Light" (an unreleased "Revolution 9"-like piece) has enough critical commentary on it then "Her Majesty" (an actually released song) is bound to have just as much. I've found that with Beatles articles you HAVE to have published books in order to make an article that is broad enough in coverage (one of the GA criteria). You simply cannot get away with web-only sources. Again, I would withdraw the nomination.

P.S. A song's length does not determine if "there's a lot to say about it" (see "You Suffer"). – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 17:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Beatles Bible is also not reliable (see WP:BLOGS). – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 20:48, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]