Talk:Hayley Williams/Archive 3

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Archive 3

I don't get it

The topless incident DID HAPPEN, FACT, why shouldn't it be mentioned? How sad to have wiki pages run by fans. Be objective people.

See WP:NOTNEWS, specifically, "Routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia." (emphasis mine) --TorriTorri(^talk/_contribs) 21:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• There are a lot of things that DO HAPPEN, FACT. That doesn't mean we should cover them all. It has nothing to do with being a fan or not, it's simply insignificant. Just because it got news coverage is nothing - all sorts of celebrity stuff is in the news, but it doesn't all merit inclusion. Until this actually has a noted impact on her career or life, and a cited source says so, it's pretty trivial. DeutscherStahl (talk) 01:21, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I should add to the fact that it hasn't done anything and practically the hype was over by the second week. Its pretty odd, but Paramore is known for it's "overrated" position in that they are popular but don't seem to get the kind of attention other bands get due to their good reputation. News like this only furthers them being "overrated" because its being covered, but does nothing to hurt them. Ironic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.195.69 (talk) 16:35, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

This page isn't about Paramore, much less any editor's opinions about Paramore. This page is a biography of a living person. If you can show a reliable source that says this is an important part of her life, then I will support this material's inclusion. Until then, it's just a bit of pop-culture trivia. SHEFFIELDSTEEL^TALK 18:18, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Messed up link

theres a messed up link in the first section- the tags aren't properly opened/closed but I dont know much about HTML so I cant fix it —Preceding unsigned comment added by FLANAGAN creto (talk • contribs) 08:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I just fixed a redlink along with another broken edit. If there is still a problem, please state the text that has the problem. Johnuniq (talk) 11:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 72.22.127.10, 11 August 2010

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72.22.127.10 (talk) 03:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Wikipedia is not a tabloid; please see Wikipedia:BLP#Avoid gossip and feedback loops. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:46, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I have also removed the suggested addition in question just in case. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

How tall is Hayley?

I love Hayley. She's awesome! I went to her concert 2 nights ago. How tall is she? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.23.75 (talk) 17:32, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

It seems like there is nothing mentioned about Paramore's song "Decode" which was the main theme song for the Twilight Saga's movie! Before "Airplanes" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.188.183 (talk) 20:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Hair color?

Is she naturally red or blond? And has she ever commented on her own hair? --TiagoTiago (talk) 23:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Source 17 is incorrect

After reading the entire article (reference 17), Hayley only states that she believes god has blessed her, but does not say which religion she is part of. Therefore within the wikipedia article about her where is says she is a Christian, there is no valid citation. I wish to edit this, but I cannot. Would somebody please change it for me? Thanks. Zoleta (talk) 21:45, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Fixed it. :D yz2907 (talk) 23:45, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Christianity

Hayley and the entire band has said they are Christians and I saw this was removed. On the Paramore page there is one source and here are a few others: http://www.slate.com/id/2231513/ http://www.gomemphis.com/news/2008/aug/01/paramores-music-punk-pop-jesus-groups-common-groun/ http://dtrtministries.com/2010/12/27/dtrt-ministries-wishes-happy-birthday-to-hayley-williams-of-paramore/ http://paramoreband.livejournal.com/31376.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pretty Letdown (talk • contribs) 00:31, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

• this not is a christian music..only the family origin of the members is of a southern region of bible belt..

picture

Could you please get a better picture of her up?--68.186.160.22 (talk) 17:05, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

If you can find a picture that follows the image use policy and image content guidelines, feel free to add it yourself. --TorriTorri(^talk/_contribs) 19:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Twitpic accident

She quite famously accidentally Twitpic'd a topless photo of herself. Does this warrant mention or is it too prurient for Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.60.209 (talk) 23:37, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Check the archive of this talk page: this very issue was discussed at length back in August apparently. The conclusion at that time was that it amounted to printing gossip, and Wikipedia tries to shy away from that. I haven't done searching for sources discussing the incident, but I think that if we have a reliable source discussing the incident (i.e., article in a major newspaper), preferably in some substantial depth and/or in clearly stated connection with a less-gossipy event caused by this leak (e.g., if Paramore were to get dropped by the label). —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 07:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

The fact that "Williams is currently dating New Found Glory guitarist Chad Gilbert." is notable enough to get mention, but the fact that she leaked nude pics on her twitter account (which resulted in a large increase in her number of twitter followers and contributed to two members of paramore leaving the band) isn't notable enough? 99.255.58.85 (talk) 10:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

If you can find a major source that says the incident affected anything, feel free to add the information in. However, it's unlikely that you'll find that information. Amount of twitter followers isn't something that matters to a Wikipedia article, and I guarantee you won't find anything stating that Josh and Zac left the band partially because of the incident. In everything Josh has said since leaving the band, he never once mentioned this incident. Sounds like speculation on your part, not a fact. On top of this, even if it were true it would not be suited for this article, but rather the Josh Farro and Paramore articles. For your other point, about her dating Chad, romantic relationships have always been considered notable on Wikipedia and just about every biographical article on Wikipedia mentions this kind of information.

Categories

Should she really be counted as a hip hop singer. Singing on the occasional hip hop record doesn't warrant inclusion in that category, surely ? -- Beardo (talk) 14:20, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

I have the same thoughts as Beardo. I don't really think featuring artists should warrant inclusion in a category. I think it should be based on their primary recordings.-- (Lisdavid89 (talk) 00:28, 21 April 2011 (UTC))

Data Section

Please note that I have moved her 'Personal Life' section down the page to reflect the biggest majority of pages on this site, also I mentioned as Williams is a musician the data in regards to her career should come before her personal life. BrotherDarksoul (talk) 03:30, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Infobox Image

Would anyone have any objections to me changing the infobox image to this one File:Hayleywilliamscrop.JPG? Don't get me wrong I think the one that is there is great, but this seems to be a bit more appropriate for that of an infobox image? Not gonna just go jumping on that one though without the blessing of the rest of the editors on this page. Drop me a wee line here and let me know your thoughts. Thanks dudes. BrotherDarksoul (talk) 03:49, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Williams-Gilbert

Did Hayley change her stage name? If not, i don't thing Gilbert should be there. Minerva97 (talk) 12:35, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Scandal

An IP has removed the following text (diff):

On May 28, 2010 Williams was involved in a scandal in which a topless photo of her was posted on her Twitter account. The photo was taken down within minutes and Williams stated that her Twitter account had been hacked.

References

I agree with the removal performed by the IP. Did the photo have any significant impact on the subject or her career? If so, write about that, with a reference. Was the hack significant in some way? If so, write about that. Given what we see on the internet, the term "scandal" is silly and if the text is restored it needs to be written in an encyclopedic manner—articles are not a place to record news-of-the-day "scandals". Johnuniq (talk) 05:04, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Awards and Nominations

This section needs more sources! Bowling is life (talk) 23:21, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

New picture

Since there is a new picture in the infobox don't you think we should put the previous picture somewhere in the article? Just a thought. Bowling is life (talk) 04:19, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Instruments listed in the infobox

According to Template:Infobox musical artist#instrument, this field is only for instruments the subject is primarily known for. The infobox in this article ostensibly lists every instruments Williams has ever used. Personally, I'd just list Vocals, because I don't think Williams is specifically notable for any of the other instruments here, although in several of the performances during the tour to promote the Riot! album, there's clearly footage of Williams playing keys. Similarly, looking at The Final Riot!#Personnel, Williams is credited with "vocals, keyboard". In this article's lead section, however, it says that Williams is "the lead vocalist and *occasional* keyboardist" of Paramore. And so, I personally, would just list "Vocals" in the infobox, but also think maybe I discuss this on the talk page, first.--2601:153:900:43F0:5C4B:59CC:63AA:4129 (talk) 01:41, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree, and I edited that accordingly. Unfortunately, it looks like someone reverted my edit in favor of the previous revision. Regards.--Kevjgav (talk) 16:43, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

The main picture used in this article is not very good

What do you guys think? I feel like we could find a better one to use. Xiibo (talk) 05:24, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Personal Life/Career

For her personal life, she started reposting on her instagram as of April 2022, and has recently sung with Billie Eilish during the Coachella event in 2022. 24.115.73.162 (talk) 01:09, 9 June 2022 (UTC)