Talk:Hamas Charter

"Considered?"

Since the 2017 Charter was actually approved by Hamas and issued as their charter, why does this say "often considered?" Mcdruid (talk) 05:09, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

see Talk:1988 Hamas charter/Archives/ 1#New article for 2017 charter discussion, particularly this comment:

Well, the 2017 charter did not replace the 1988 charter, so it isn't really a new charter, it is just what it is: A Document of General Principles and Policies, sitting there alongside the historical document that is the 1988 charter. Many people are careful to say something like "the document could be considered Hamas’s new charter" (Hroub); Legrain says "By designating its text as a “wathîqa” (document), Hamas refers somewhere to its 1988 “mîthâq” (Charter) even if linguistically the wathîqa is supposed to be less binding and fixed" ... long story short, actually calling it the "new charter" isn't quite in line with the scholarly sources that maintain and discuss the distinctions (though it's a good redirect). Andreas JN 466 17:57, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Thus I inserted "often considered" cause the new 2017 document may not precisely be a "charter" and it may not have precisely "replaced" the original charter, however because many treat it as doing so, it is "often considered" to have done so. Em3rgent0rdr (talk) 07:04, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Then you should also put the same conditions on the 1988 "Charter"

"But the Charter of Hamas was never subject to deliberations and was never submitted for an approval before any governing body of the organization. The Charter was in fact little more than a long intifada leaflet, a tract meant to dis tinguish Hamas from the Fatah-led Unified Leadership of the Intifada. Through it, Hamas sought to carve out its place in the Palestinian national consciousness and to motivate its Islamist core: the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood"

– https://www.jstor.org/stable/26331116

Not only that, but every source I find references it as the new "Charter." Do you have anybody, except islamophbics, who do not regard it as the new Charter?Mcdruid (talk) 01:10, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]