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This could be PROD'ed

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I see no claim of notability. That scientists working on the project have published articles about it doesn't connote notability. This is why CoI editing is so problematic. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) Chris Troutman (talk) 22:14, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Chris troutman: I'm curious about how you would define notability here. From my perspective, it works differently from WP:GNG for scientific projects in the same way that Wikipedia:Notability (astronomical objects) includes "articles in peer-reviewed scientific journals" in its notability. Compare with Very Small Array, which also only relies on journal articles, but has had an article here (justifiably - it's an important experiment) since 2005. Scientific research doesn't often get much coverage in newspapers. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:10, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As you know, pointing to other articles isn't a valid argument. If your complaint is that newspapers cover red carpet award shows but not telescopes, then your complaint should be directed to the media and their customers. General notability isn't different depending on subjects. We need to sources to write an article and we can't just build articles based upon the work of scientists that work there. There are popular science communicators that cover this sort of thing and if they discussed the subject in depth, then I might see a case for notability. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:10, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree User:Chris troutman - this should go to AFD unless there is independent coverage. SmartSE (talk) 09:08, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Chris troutman and Smartse: I found various news reports, mostly in Spanish (it's not so easy to find articles in Japanese, I've asked colleagues if they know of any). [1] [2] [3], [4], [5] - I'll keep my eye out for more, but they mostly surround the announcement of the project and an ambassador's visit at the moment. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:04, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In Japanese: [6], [7]. I'll add these to the article soon. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:20, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Now added to the article, sorry for the delay. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]