Talk:Greater Poland uprising (1806)

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Did you know... that the Greater Poland Uprising of 1806 was one of two entirely victorious uprisings in the history of Poland?

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Expansion Needed

I'd like to see this expanded, and am curious about the dynamics of the uprising. How much fighting? What were the condition of the Prussian military forces? How much support did Napoleon's advancing forces provide, besides the impending arrival? How much time elapsed between the start of the uprising and the arrival of French forces? What was the extent of casualties on both sides? Bwood 13:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First French units appear at the begining of uprising (3 November), but they were marching on rotue: Berlin-Poznań-Bydgoszcz-Gdańsk. Most part of province outside of this corridor was captured by local Polish units. Radomil talk 19:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Ask and ye shall receive"! (very quickly, too!) I intend to study this better tonight, and will touch up the English, maybe ask more questions. It looks like the start of a great article, that's been absent. Bwood 20:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I had a few minutes to scan the rest of the article, before I leave and return to it later, will mention a few things, in case you have opportunity to add them before I clean up the English later. There is a lot of info about the Polish preparations, actions, reassigments, but next to nothing about the reactions and deployments of the Prussian military. What is most needed for better understanding, is a picture of how the territory changed hands over the course of the uprising, keeping in mind that many readers won't be intimately familiar with the geography, nor the positions of the towns. (I can maybe provide some graphics later, if I have some information to work with.) There needs to be more information about the last stages of the uprising and the conditions. For example, were the last Prussian troops pulled out when they could no longer hope to hold territory? Were they captured and turned over to French forces as prisoners of war? The Aftermath needs some more, at least a reference to the successor state and a link, of course. Bwood 21:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ps, were Kalisz and Konin such large contributors of soldiers because the German military was far away or that the overall percentage of Polish to German residents was so much higher, or were there other factors? Also, what kind of intendent is referred to? Was he a military advisor/representative? Or a government beaurocrat in position to step into civilian office? Bwood 21:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know for sure, but tracking rotue of French army I supose that most of German troops were concentrate on the north. Their actions in central and soutern part of Greater Poland was rather chaotic, for instant regular Prussian units retreat from Poznań at night from 1 to 2 November, a day before entrence of Dąbrowski and first, small troops of Napoleon's army. Different situation was in northern part of region were Polish attacks meet with organised counterattacks of Prussians Radomil talk 22:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Largest uprising centers were Poznań, Kalisz and Leszno for simple reason - those were largest towns. Napoleonic army with ideas of French revolution was welcome much more enthusiastic by people of towns than szlachta-nobles. They were affraid of those "republican" forces. They do not love Prussians but at least Prussia were still feudal state that guarantee feudal society - base of szlachta's economical egsistence. Radomil talk 22:25, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense.

Too late to start on edits, perhaps tomorrow...Bwood 03:59, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Intendent was a French officer responsible for suplies of military equipment to newly formed Polish units. Radomil talk 05:42, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

B-class review

This article is currently at start/C class, but could be improved to B-class if it had more (inline) citations. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 03:27, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vague article with missing data and generalization

While the Kingdom of Prussia already possessed large Polish population in Upper Silesia, it gained additional Polish citizens during the partitions of Poland. (HOW LARGE is LARGE, WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE, AND WHAT IS THE BASIS FOR WHAT IS 'POLISH', THAT IT IS SLAVIC SPEAKING, OR IS IT PRUSSIA's OWN DETERMINATION?) Polish language was abolished as official language and German introduced. (when?) Prussian ruler Frederick the Great who hated[8] and despised[9] Poles ( ALL 'POLES'? WHAT 'Poles'?) hoped to replace them with Germans (WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF WHAT HE HOPED TO DO?) Prussian officials who spread German language and culture (WHO? WHICH?) often (OFTEN ACCORDING TO WHOM? WEASEL WORD) despised Poles, who were portrayed as 'backward Slavs (HOW OFTEN? BY WHOM EXACTLY?).[7] Lands of Polish nobility were confiscated and given to German nobles.[7] (AT WHAT RATIO? ALL? 100 people?) German colonists were settled[7] (WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER COLONISTS?)

always these generalizations, always the same foreign sources talking about 'Germans' and 'Poles' in a time when not even the nobles thought of themselves as Poles - had they done so, then maybe they would not have allowed themselves to be bribed by foreigners and had invested in more than just protecting their grain trade. Maybe they would have invested in, ya know, Poland. And of course always this conclusion that policy towards the region just fell out of the sky, with no context whatsoever. Asdf12345sixseveneight (talk) 20:49, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]