Talk:Gordon G. Chang

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Inflammatory Statement

The statement "He is living in a fantasy world,never realizes his mistakes even concrete evidences are placed in front of him." is an opinion, and inflammatory - it should either be removed or if commentary was given a referenced citation should be included.

38.112.0.58 (talk) 11:58, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree it is POV. WP article should be factual, especially on living person. IMHO it is factual to mention Gordon Chang had revised his original 2006 China collapse prediction several times. This article written by Chang cited two instances where he revised China's coming collapse in 2011 and 2012:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/12/29/the_coming_collapse_of_china_2012_edition

"I admit it: My prediction that the Communist Party would fall by 2011 was wrong. Still, I'm only off by a year."

Bobby fletcher (talk) 20:48, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How about «His predictions did not realize on time he himself predicted. Nonetheless in front of this concrete evidence, he repeatedly keeps pushing these predictions ahead in time»? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.6.232.131 (talk • contribs) 02:09, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Where is he born ?

Was he born in China, or the US ? Australian cowboy (talk) 20:23, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Says here he was born in New Jersey.Longinus876 (talk) 00:11, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No mention his 20 year working in China at all

According The Economist (June 15th 2002), Mr Chang lived and worked in China for nearly two decades, only left in 2001.--Cynics84 (talk) 07:41, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Odd statement

At the beginning of "Collapse of China" is this statement: "Chang always says that China is on the brink of collapse and that the people are one step away from revolution."

Aside from being non-factual (he doesn't "always say" that... we could say he "often states" that, or "For years he has predicted that"), it's not supported by the linked Al Jazeera article, which is about the US rejecting China's warning about meeting with the Dalai Lama. The article does, however, have an embedded YouTube clip with author Gordon Chang.Magnabonzo (talk) 20:08, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Specific predictions and their dates should be added. According to the page on his book, The Coming Collapse of China, he predicted the collapse of China in 2006, 2011, 2012, 2016, and 2017. It appears that his book (written in 2001) predicted the collapse of China between 2006 to 2011. Then in late 2011, he published this Foreign Policy article claiming China would collapse in 2012. I also found this prediction during his 2013 Fox Business appearance where he predicted China would crash in 2013-2014. The 2016 and 2017 predictions I'm not sure about, it could be referring to his 2016 National Interest article, and he does often do interviews where he predicts a coming collapse, such as this one and this one. 101.98.151.109 (talk) 19:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Advocate for genocidal war crimes

The title of this section is not neutral and misleading. None of the sources say this is a "genocidal war crime". None of the sources say he is advocating for it. Rather he is saying it is a deterrent. In the same way possessing nuclear weapons and promising to use them if attacked, is a deterrent. He is saying that Taiwan posses nuclear-like capabilities to strike back at China, if faced with an existential threat. This is also true for Russia, USA, India, etc.. it's why every nuclear nation has these weapons, to deter aggression. -- GreenC 22:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]