Talk:Gisela of Burgundy, Marchioness of Montferrat

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William V of Montferrat

I think he was son of Gisela by her second marriage: at least his article says he was. If that’s right he should be mentioned.Ian Spackman (talk) 09:18, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Son by marriage to Rainier I

@Kansas Bear:, according to Diplomatics in the Eastern Mediterranean 1000-1500: Aspects of Cross-Cultural Communication, p. 183, Gisela had a son with Rainier known by his dynastic name of William III "the Elder". This individual is not listed here on this article. If the person in question is represented here on Wiki by the article William V, Marquess of Montferrat, shouldn't the article then be moved to William III instead of V? I believe that the answer to this is given by the same source linked above, on the very same page, as it says that the offspring of William III (again, the Elder), was known as William IV or William V. Your thoughts about my lil' assessment? - LouisAragon (talk) 16:38, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It does appear that William V, Marquess of Montferrat is indeed "William III". The marriage to Judith daughter of Leopold III appears to confirm that. As for the numbering, William is referred to as William V in "The Leper King and His Heirs: Baldwin IV and the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem", by Bernard Hamilton, page 148;"Royal Bastards: The Birth of Illegitimacy, 800-1230", by Sara McDougall, page xiii. Not sure if changing the numerical would do more harm than good. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:01, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Yeah that makes it quite difficult. We have at least two options then I think; 1) search for more sources to find the most used number ("V" vs "III") 2) keep it at V and mention in the lede that he's also sometimes referred to as "III". - LouisAragon (talk) 20:19, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]